Sympathy for Harry anyone?

merlotgran

A lot has been learned on both sides from this visit:

They can slip in and out of the UK without any fuss so long as they don’t publicise it.
They now seem to be willing to agree to whatever terms are set by the palace.
Low key visits don’t require high security so long as they remain low key.
Making demands of the establishment that will never be agreed in a month of Sundays gets you nowhere.

This will all be harder for Meghan to absorb than Harry but she will find it easier if he stops complaining.

Precisely.

maybe Harry will stop complaining when she does.

A lot has been learned on both sides from this visit:

They can slip in and out of the UK without any fuss so long as they don’t publicise it.
They now seem to be willing to agree to whatever terms are set by the palace.
Low key visits don’t require high security so long as they remain low key.
Making demands of the establishment that will never be agreed in a month of Sundays gets you nowhere.

This will all be harder for Meghan to absorb than Harry but she will find it easier if he stops complaining.

Apparently Meghan has let it be known, via 'a source close to her', that she was upset about not being able to attend the Invictus Games (or whatever it was that was happening) during her visit here.
Sad, that.
Probably go through the same performance next year when the Games are on.

I think he was so smitten with Meghan that he would have jumped off a cliff if she’d asked him to but the scales are now beginning to fall from his eyes. He really misses some elements of his previous life and would like them back. However, sadly I think too much water has gone under the bridge, both with his family and the British public, for that to ever happen now. Therefore, he needs to try to build a meaningful life for himself now away from the Netflix type projects and tell all publications and find a way that he can be respected again as he was during his Army service,

lovethepuppies

I have some sympathy for Harry. I mean, would I swap places with him? Not for all the money in the world. The day baby Prince George was brought out on the hospital steps I said how sorry I felt for that baby. Just born and his whole life is mapped out for him already. No thank you. I prefer choice and living a more hidden life.

Members of other European Royal families have chosen to give up their royal privileges and live as private citizens - mainly in the US.

It is only Prince Harry who has tried to have his cake and eat it, walking away from the responsibilities of life as a member of the Royal family, while clinging on to all privileges and attention that go with being royalty and actively doing everything he can to stay in the news.

Living at a level that he cannot sustain from his private income, but needing to keep staging stunts to attract attention and earn money and demanding the police protection of a working royal when visiting this country.

So true.

MarieElla

And he never acknowledged the damage that stupid book did to the royal family, expecting them to apologise and then hurt at being frozen out.
He's a fool!

That book will be very hard to come back from. William didn't come off favourably in the book (two sides to every story, of course). I know I'd find that very hard to forgive from a sibling.

I have some sympathy for Harry. I mean, would I swap places with him? Not for all the money in the world. The day baby Prince George was brought out on the hospital steps I said how sorry I felt for that baby. Just born and his whole life is mapped out for him already. No thank you. I prefer choice and living a more hidden life.

And he never acknowledged the damage that stupid book did to the royal family, expecting them to apologise and then hurt at being frozen out.
He's a fool!

I read his book Spare and he just came across as a spoilt overindulged brat. I have zero sympathy or regard for him. He's just a whiny little brat.

In a word, no!

Whoa - don’t hold back ! 🤪

no sympathy for any of the royal family. A bunch of pampered entitled layabouts who suck everything they can out of the public purse until they get found out.

butterandjam
In the interests of fairness -you make some very good points. I fear they will be ignored.

Luckygirl3

Molly ... it seemed important to me not to join the media-led and selectively media-informed vendetta against this couple, not because they are any part of my life, but because I am deeply concerned about fairness and about the sort of trial-by-social media that features so much now. It feels wrong in principle.

Given your interest in fairness, then you must surely be interested in what H and M say in their own words . On TV, under oath in court, on Netflix, in his autobiography.

Meghan, on global TV, told a flagrant lie she underwent an earlier secret private marriage to H carried out by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Archbishop of Canterbury is the senior bishop and primate of the Church of England, and the spiritual leader of the worldwide Anglican Communion. He's a member of the House Of Lords. His position carries huge weight in religion, Parliament, Law-making in Britain.

Meghans lied that A of C broke the law of the land and his church. He was forced to refute that lie and clarify, he did not break the law. He did not secretly marry them ahead of the public wedding.

What principle was at stake? Do you think truth , law and justice are important?

Syracute

Nope. It is often parroted what is written and threads are started tge minute DM has a headline about them.
No here could survive that sort of media glare much less 3 different threads of nonsense.

And here we all are, including you Syracute, - contributing to the media glare and three different threads of stuff you consider nonsense because you disagree.
🤣🤣🤣

Is it really "venom"? I think people expressing their opinions, based on available evidence, is acceptable in a democracy. I like to read what people truly think, not what they feel they can safely write. There is a difference.

Yes and he also said in that interview that Meghan was experiencing the family life she'd never had!!

Following their engagement H told the world the queen invited M to spend Christmas with the royal family, not usual for the queen but M didn’t want to go to America. She was given a warm welcome by the family and felt part of it
No mention of racism !

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Fair enough.

I just don't like liars MissA and there's no maybe about it, they are.

It makes no difference to me or mine but it is the ultimate reality show....better entertainment than the Real Housewives of whatever anyway!

They may be liars, the point is, what difference does it make to me and mine, or you and yours?

Syacute
Nobody here knows them personally and can not judge.

You’re right about Nobody knowing them personally, but you are also judging them.

You may be judging them more positively, but you’re also using Most so called facts are gleaned from the tabloid press.

Seems a bit reminiscent of Janus to criticise others for something you’re doing yourself.