Another 'Brexit win'? People smuggler convicted in France found by BBC living in UK and seeking asylum

We are like Boy Scouts in the UK when it comes to rules
Dib dib dib.

Mediterranean and Gallic countries do ‘the shrug’ when rules don’t suit.

Himself was always amazed out here in Málaga when observing construction workers. “Look” he’d say “not a hard hat, boots or a pair of goggles between them!”.

AGAA4

The House if Commons library suggest that the UK is £90 billion worse off per year equating to £2700 - £3700 per capita.
That's apart from losing other benefits which would have stopped criminals arriving here.

Exactly- the £350 million pound a week was never available to be given the NHS the finical loss was always going to surpass what the UK paid in..... Has anyone ever owned up to that lie?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We are like Boy Scouts in the UK when it comes to rules
Dib dib dib.

Mediterranean and Gallic countries do ‘the shrug’ when rules don’t suit.

Himself was always amazed out here in Málaga when observing construction workers. “Look” he’d say “not a hard hat, boots or a pair of goggles between them!”.

On the other hand, European countries who have identity cards have a much better system for knowing where people are living, working and accessing services. If you have experienced it first hand you understand the difference that having an ID card makes.

The mini mart this man owned and ran has been closed by the council, after the BBC investigation.

Not much use, as apparently they reopen a day or two later.

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Mamie

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We are like Boy Scouts in the UK when it comes to rules
Dib dib dib.

Mediterranean and Gallic countries do ‘the shrug’ when rules don’t suit.

Himself was always amazed out here in Málaga when observing construction workers. “Look” he’d say “not a hard hat, boots or a pair of goggles between them!”.

On the other hand, European countries who have identity cards have a much better system for knowing where people are living, working and accessing services. If you have experienced it first hand you understand the difference that having an ID card makes.

Mamie, that would be a very interesting discussion and comparison, I'm starting a new thread and hope you'll join in.

GrannyGravy13

If the U.K. and EU’s military and defence operations continued with little to no difference post Brexit, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that criminal intelligence agencies couldn’t have continued sharing as before.

The UK decided to leave the EU, not the other way round. The EU is not obliged to give the UK benefits its previously enjoyed when it was an EU member and paid its contributions.

It is for the UK to negotiate for EU benefits it has now lost, if it so wishes and if the UK is prepared to pay the EU for those benefits surely?

I would say it’s more that it’s high time that the Home Office and immigration got its act together to do some real investigation into people already on our shores.
If the BBC and GB News can do it then surely they can as they have far more resources than journalists or tv channels.

The agencies would have to know the people are here in the first place. Journalists may get tips offs as may the agencies, Strengthening capability is a good thing I agree. I think the LP has invested more to beef up the capacity of Immigration Enforcement and has expanded detention capacity with a plan to deport 45,000 foreign criminals over. the next. decade.

Immigration Enforcement still suffers from the loss of the EU data-sharing agreement with many countries in the EU following Brexi- despite Starmer government increased. investment. It's now more difficult for IE to check criminal and immigration records. They can only check UK databases now so would not easily know of convictions in other EU countries and other EU immigration data.

An earlier poster highlighted- Asylum seekers are fingerprinted on arrival in the UK and checked against UK police databases, but these now would not necessarily show a conviction from another country.

Oreo

I would say it’s more that it’s high time that the Home Office and immigration got its act together to do some real investigation into people already on our shores.
If the BBC and GB News can do it then surely they can as they have far more resources than journalists or tv channels.

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The Labour Party's crackdown on illegal working has led to record level raids and 67% increase in arrests in past 2 years. Ive noticed this increase recently in my Police custody suite work.

Labour's proposed Border Security Asylum and Immigration bill will give law enforcement the toughest powers yet to take down criminal smuggling gangs. For the first time gangs will face counterterrorist style tactics.

LemonJam

Jacob Rees Mogg has said and made many daft predictions things about Brexit.

... and not confined to Brexit.

When JRM responds to questions, he sometimes gives the impression that he's just woken from a long sleep and is finding the daylight a tad uncomfortable.

That's good news. I know Labour have done a lot more to stop illegal working than the Tories did.
Smuggling gangs should face tough tactics.

Clever of LP to introduce enhanced counter terrorism style tactics in this new proposed bill. The UK has a close counter terrorism dialogue with the EU and co operates with the informal pan European agencies to share terrorist threats.

Will be interesting to see how that pans out if and when the bill is passed- may go some way to make up for the loss of EU data sharing as previously highlighted.

Dickens

LemonJam

Jacob Rees Mogg has said and made many daft predictions things about Brexit.

... and not confined to Brexit.

When JRM responds to questions, he sometimes gives the impression that he's just woken from a long sleep and is finding the daylight a tad uncomfortable.

Well- he's not able to stretch those long legs of his and get some shut eye on the House of Commons benches anymore 😂😂