Hundreds of illegal migrants to be put in existing military barracks

Really NotSpaghetti ? Glad to know that as the news includes manslaughter and sex offenders will be released halfway through sentences.

MartavTaurus

I guess it's a short term solution, but not the answer to the problem.
Add these young male illegal migrants to the 6,000 killers, rapists and sex offenders being freed early from prison from September, and we have a tinderbox waiting to ignite.

Just because we move the problem round the houses, it doesn't go away and certainly serves as no deterrent.

MartavTaurus, 6,000 killers, rapists and sex offenders are NOT being freed early from prison from September.

*Killers are completely excluded
*Serious sex offenders and violent criminals face stricter rules, not early release
*High-risk offenders, terrorists, and those serving 7+ years for the most severe violent crimes (like manslaughter or wounding with intent) are excluded.

Thought you would be pleased to know this.

Surely they are asylum seekers at this point.

We wouldn't be housing illegal migrants - unless they are all waiting for transportation elsewhere!
There are people waiting for claims to be assessed.

Home Office guidelines and factsheets for UK military sites (such as Wethersfield, Napier Barracks, and the newer sites like Crowborough and Cameron Barracks) specify that these facilities are used exclusively to house single adult male asylum seekers between the ages of 18 and 65.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-accommodation-at-military-sites-factsheets/crowborough-training-camp-east-sussex-factsheet?hl=en-GB#:~:text=We%20have%20committed%20to%20exiting,ages%20of%2018%20and%2065.

How many is enough? 1 m or 2 m maybe and what if they never stop coming. Surely something must be done, it wiped the Torys out and it will wipe Labour out and Reform will flourish.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Not all cases of migrants landing here are genuine asylum seekers. If they were there’d be no need for Tik Tok guides and coaches telling them to ‘pretend they’re gay’ to game the system. We are too soft.

It will always be a problem on the margins deciding who is genuine - at things stand, we have to just try to assess as soon as possible.

My feelings are, if you are genuine, you will just be glad of the respite from what you are fleeing

- the one refugee I recently spoke myself when I was visiting someone who did voluntary work with refugees who fit the billt now aged 17 had arrived 2 years ago as his parents were murdered by machetes in front of him - he hardly would object to a barrack bed and enough food whilst waiting would he.

I believe that the UK is more generally tolerant of migrants than many other countries.

I said, I have no problem with disused barracks either. It seems preferable to hotels and houses in the community for several reasons. I saw nothing wrong with the barge idea either, providing conditions were sanitary.

Actually, the feelings about accommodating illegal migrants are pretty much the same in every European country. I was watching an article here on French tv talking about illegal migrants being housed in mobile homes on a campsite in the South. When at the same time next door was a campsite full of families on their holidays. Of course, that caused animosity too.

I read all the comments on a thread CatsWhiskas if you must know, and there is nothing to suggest that GN members deserve those kind of untruths.

Oreo

GrannyGravy13

If you had read my earlier post MaizieD you would know that I am in favour of Barracks being utilised in this way 🤦‍♀️

Me too, it’s the obvious answer to migrant housing.
MaizieD I consider your comments disgraceful to other GN members and absolutely untrue.

How can you know what Maizie is led to believe?

GrannyGravy13

If you had read my earlier post MaizieD you would know that I am in favour of Barracks being utilised in this way 🤦‍♀️

Me too, it’s the obvious answer to migrant housing.
MaizieD I consider your comments disgraceful to other GN members and absolutely untrue.

Not all cases of migrants landing here are genuine asylum seekers. If they were there’d be no need for Tik Tok guides and coaches telling them to ‘pretend they’re gay’ to game the system. We are too soft.

The military barracks are the best option. Housing in hotels was a bad idea. At least Labour are actually addressing the problem in a constructive way.

If you had read my earlier post MaizieD you would know that I am in favour of Barracks being utilised in this way 🤦‍♀️

Rwanda? It was never given a chance to see if it would indeed act as a deterrent as the foolish Starmer abandoned the whole idea.

It may have worked or it may not but it should at least have been given a chance.

I believe it had already been showing encouraging signs.

GrannyGravy13

Wyllow3

Think Private Eye? Reductio ad Absurdum?

Careful a former PM was castigated for sprinkling his speeches with Latin…

Aw, I did enjoy it GG13

I also had to look it up. 2x

(It was floating round my mind as a neat summary)

GrannyGravy13

Wyllow3

Think Private Eye? Reductio ad Absurdum?

Careful a former PM was castigated for sprinkling his speeches with Latin…

😂
Oooh yes, much too elitist.

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Wyllow3

Think Private Eye? Reductio ad Absurdum?

Careful a former PM was castigated for sprinkling his speeches with Latin…

Think Private Eye? Reductio ad Absurdum?

MaizieD what a horrible insinuation!

It is not a crime to be concerned about these (mainly) young men arriving on our shores with no documentation.

I am going to assume that your last paragraph was an attempt at either irony or sarcasm…

Well unless you want everyone to be drowned when France refuses to take them back - and why should they? (goes away muttering, reminding GN's that around 94% of incomers come legally and the govt are taking more action on both these matters than previous ones. And actually speeding up the processing.

I think that drowning is the preferred solution, Wyllow. That, or a mass abduction by aliens to take them to a galaxy far far away. They certainly don’t seem to be considered fit to exist on the same planet as the British…

Maremia

Can you suggest a way to 'un-allow' them?
Is there a way?
We had a deal with France until BREXIT.

I just Google the Dublin Agreement, which we were part of before we left the EU.

We (UK) received more migrants than we removed under this..

Can you suggest a way to 'un-allow' them?
Is there a way?
We had a deal with France until BREXIT.

Also moving them to massive Army base in Grantham. Personally, I cannot understand why we allow undocumented, unvaccinated, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking, different cultured, etc, who throw away any ID upon landing on British or other European shores. Just considering where I would go and live given the same circumstances. Monaco, perhaps.

GrannyGravy13

Better than hotels or HMO’s in town centres.

Yes.