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Hundreds of illegal migrants to be put in existing military barracks

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Primrose53 Thu 25-Jun-26 22:46:56

Linton on Ouse, Yorkshire

Barnham, Suffolk

Bicester, Oxfordshire

Plus they are planning to expand other barracks.

All young men who we know nothing about.

sundowngirl Fri 26-Jun-26 15:04:10

I agree that using ex military barracks being used, but these immigrants should not be allowed to roam freely in the neighbourhood.

Plevey08 Fri 26-Jun-26 14:59:17

We don't have a proper legal route for asylum seekers to go through. They end up in France surviving in the forest/woods. They are frequently sprayed with pepper sprays by the police and moved on to the next forest. Until they choose to risk their lives across the channel. We are paying France a large amount of money to try to stop the boats. That is why the numbers are down. There needs to be greater international cooperation. And the UK should offer legal routes for asylum seekers to apply and be vetted. Until the UK does this the boats will continue.

AGAA4 Fri 26-Jun-26 14:16:29

Manslaughter is a difficult one as some are very unlikely to kill again. The woman suffering years of abuse who finally turns and kills the abuser is not likely to kill again.
There can be quite a lot of extenuating circumstances for manslaughter which means some of those people will not offend again.

NotSpaghetti Fri 26-Jun-26 13:59:50

Yes. They really are.
I honestly think it's deliberate "shock horror" or clickbait type stuff.

Why explain the nuance when you can just write dramatic headlines!
🙄

Oreo Fri 26-Jun-26 13:45:03

NotSpaghetti

Oreo

So anyone who has been serving a 15 year sentence for rape or manslaughter who would have got out in 10 years with good behaviour will now be released after 7 .5 years? Which is half the original sentence.

The 15-year case, Oreo is a perfect example of why the media headlines are causing confusion.

Under the Sentencing Act 2026, that individual will serve 10 years, not 7.5 years.
That 10-year release point stays completely frozen.

The 7-Year Rule is totally fixed. The drop to a 50% release point only applies to standard determinate sentences under 7 years.
If a sentence is 7 years or longer for manslaughter or serious sex crimes, the law completely blocks them from the halfway rule.

Thanks for digging into this, the newspapers are very confusing on it.👍🏻

Norah Fri 26-Jun-26 12:23:12

LemonJam

MT62

Maybe next door to you Lemonjam.
Or are you one of these people that think’ just not in my backyard”?

I agree with the majority of other posters that this solution to house asylum seekers, whilst their asylum applications are being processed, seems better than hotels and HMOs, even in barracks close to where I live.

Barnham is fairly near. I agree with this partial solution.

MT62 Fri 26-Jun-26 12:19:33

They are the migrants that genuinely need our help.
Not all, wyllow3 are escaping from war, torn countries.
Where are the wives & children, that’s what I would like to know.

MT62 Fri 26-Jun-26 12:12:27

I’ve watched clips Shinemae, where they have got off small boats & run off into the distance. Especially in other EU countries.
Maybe they have a better system here now of rounding the small boats up.

26bow Fri 26-Jun-26 12:07:04

Exactly

MT62 Fri 26-Jun-26 12:07:01

Well Lemonjam we will see how the people in the lovely village of ‘Linton on Ouse’ go on. I bet not too happy.
Thankfully we don’t have any army barracks where we live.
But we do have those HMOs.
Houses next door either side, every window as a ‘George flag’, so doesn’t sound like they are too happy either.

MT62 Fri 26-Jun-26 12:00:43

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Not all cases of migrants landing here are genuine asylum seekers. If they were there’d be no need for Tik Tok guides and coaches telling them to ‘pretend they’re gay’ to game the system. We are too soft.

👍🏻

LemonJam Fri 26-Jun-26 11:45:51

MT62

Maybe next door to you Lemonjam.
Or are you one of these people that think’ just not in my backyard”?

I agree with the majority of other posters that this solution to house asylum seekers, whilst their asylum applications are being processed, seems better than hotels and HMOs, even in barracks close to where I live.

MT62 Fri 26-Jun-26 11:45:18

Primrose53

Linton on Ouse, Yorkshire

Barnham, Suffolk

Bicester, Oxfordshire

Plus they are planning to expand other barracks.

All young men who we know nothing about.

Linton on Ouse, Yorkshire. Pop 800. Tories were looking to house 1500 migrants there. I wonder if labour are going to do the same.

MT62 Fri 26-Jun-26 11:40:12

MartavTaurus

I said, I have no problem with disused barracks either. It seems preferable to hotels and houses in the community for several reasons. I saw nothing wrong with the barge idea either, providing conditions were sanitary.

Actually, the feelings about accommodating illegal migrants are pretty much the same in every European country. I was watching an article here on French tv talking about illegal migrants being housed in mobile homes on a campsite in the South. When at the same time next door was a campsite full of families on their holidays. Of course, that caused animosity too.

But at least the holiday makers return home MT

NotSpaghetti Fri 26-Jun-26 11:17:10

Oreo

So anyone who has been serving a 15 year sentence for rape or manslaughter who would have got out in 10 years with good behaviour will now be released after 7 .5 years? Which is half the original sentence.

The 15-year case, Oreo is a perfect example of why the media headlines are causing confusion.

Under the Sentencing Act 2026, that individual will serve 10 years, not 7.5 years.
That 10-year release point stays completely frozen.

The 7-Year Rule is totally fixed. The drop to a 50% release point only applies to standard determinate sentences under 7 years.
If a sentence is 7 years or longer for manslaughter or serious sex crimes, the law completely blocks them from the halfway rule.

MT62 Fri 26-Jun-26 10:46:30

Maybe next door to you Lemonjam.
Or are you one of these people that think’ just not in my backyard”?

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 26-Jun-26 10:42:32

Oreo, this has been the case for many years. The majority of prisoners, including those convicted of serious crimes, are eligible to apply to the parole board some way into their sentence, half way being not unusual, unless the judge's sentencing statement deems a minimum serve,or, occasionally, a whole life tariff.

Shinamae Fri 26-Jun-26 10:41:41

Casdon

Shinamae

Toula

Also moving them to massive Army base in Grantham. Personally, I cannot understand why we allow undocumented, unvaccinated, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking, different cultured, etc, who throw away any ID upon landing on British or other European shores. Just considering where I would go and live given the same circumstances. Monaco, perhaps.

There are many of us who feel this way, but are labelled far right and terrible people.👹
I find it. very frightening ,all these young men,(very few women and children)” Why”we dont know who they are or what there intentions are and dont tell me they’re just coming across from Dover. There’s a long coastline there. I bet they’re coming along in smaller numbers in smaller boats right along the coastline and then just disappearing
But according to the left, “nothing to see here” 🤷‍♀️
I tend to disagree… 🤔
Time will tell!!

It’s unlikely that many small boat crossings evade detection. They are heavily tracked . ‘The UK Border Force and Ministry of Defence use a combination of radar, drones, helicopters, and AI surveillance to monitor the coastline and track vessels at sea.Once detected, the authorities intercept the boats and escort them to dedicated processing centres (primarily in Kent)

Thanks for clarifying that,Casdon but i’m pretty sure some will slip through undetected…🤷‍♀️

greyfur Fri 26-Jun-26 10:37:17

Perhaps we have more to fear from people who are the Safeguarding lead in a school?

Oreo Fri 26-Jun-26 10:33:06

So anyone who has been serving a 15 year sentence for rape or manslaughter who would have got out in 10 years with good behaviour will now be released after 7 .5 years? Which is half the original sentence.

Casdon Fri 26-Jun-26 10:30:19

Shinamae

Toula

Also moving them to massive Army base in Grantham. Personally, I cannot understand why we allow undocumented, unvaccinated, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking, different cultured, etc, who throw away any ID upon landing on British or other European shores. Just considering where I would go and live given the same circumstances. Monaco, perhaps.

There are many of us who feel this way, but are labelled far right and terrible people.👹
I find it. very frightening ,all these young men,(very few women and children)” Why”we dont know who they are or what there intentions are and dont tell me they’re just coming across from Dover. There’s a long coastline there. I bet they’re coming along in smaller numbers in smaller boats right along the coastline and then just disappearing
But according to the left, “nothing to see here” 🤷‍♀️
I tend to disagree… 🤔
Time will tell!!

It’s unlikely that many small boat crossings evade detection. They are heavily tracked . ‘The UK Border Force and Ministry of Defence use a combination of radar, drones, helicopters, and AI surveillance to monitor the coastline and track vessels at sea.Once detected, the authorities intercept the boats and escort them to dedicated processing centres (primarily in Kent)

NotSpaghetti Fri 26-Jun-26 10:24:25

I have rechecked this and the dividing line is the 7 years Oreo

It is true that "serious" sex offenders are outwith this scheme - those whose sex crimes have a determinate sentence of 7 years will not be released (This includes rape).

Also those with Extended Determinate Sentences (which judges hand down when they officially rule a sex offender or violent criminal to be "dangerous") is also excluded
These individuals can never get automatic release

Sorry, I wasn't more specific.
I have re-checked your question re manslaughter - that would fall into the 7 year rule too.
To the law, the under "7 years" prisoners are distinct from "high culpability" killers who have 7 years or more.

Shinamae Fri 26-Jun-26 10:16:09

Toula

Also moving them to massive Army base in Grantham. Personally, I cannot understand why we allow undocumented, unvaccinated, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking, different cultured, etc, who throw away any ID upon landing on British or other European shores. Just considering where I would go and live given the same circumstances. Monaco, perhaps.

There are many of us who feel this way, but are labelled far right and terrible people.👹
I find it. very frightening ,all these young men,(very few women and children)” Why”we dont know who they are or what there intentions are and dont tell me they’re just coming across from Dover. There’s a long coastline there. I bet they’re coming along in smaller numbers in smaller boats right along the coastline and then just disappearing
But according to the left, “nothing to see here” 🤷‍♀️
I tend to disagree… 🤔
Time will tell!!

paddyann54 Fri 26-Jun-26 10:03:31

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AGAA4 Fri 26-Jun-26 10:02:49

Oreo

Really NotSpaghetti ? Glad to know that as the news includes manslaughter and sex offenders will be released halfway through sentences.

You are right those prisoners will be released in the autumn