Where’s Nigel?

Comments like 'cold rage' which seemed to 'communicate' itself into thuggish disorder in Belfast?

eazybee

Farage is about, and as usual , he ha summed up the current situation perfectly, calling for a Labour leadership contest at the very least, preferably a General Election, because, as is coming from all sides, 'we don't know what Burnham stands for.'
I really don't think Farage wants to be PM, but as a political commentator and analyst he can communicate the current situation with clarity, and his comments are extremely pertinent.

In your opinion!

Certainly not in mine.

I don’t like the way this whole leadership stuff has been handled from start to the inevitable finish.

Do I think that there should be a GE, not really, do I think there should be a real leadership contest? In theory yes, in practice no, just more expense we don’t need and a “role playing” contest.

We are here, where we are now, let’s not play around any further and just get on with it.

I’m sick of the whole sordid affair and I’m not in any way interested in Farage or anything he has to say.

He doesn’t, never has and never will “speak for me”.

PS to all those who’ve been living in a cave, there’s a whole range of AB, who he is, what he stands for, online, because he’s not been living in cave for the last few decades.

Want to know more about him? Then take the time and trouble to read up about him.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Burnham

www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/22/who-andy-burnham-likely-next-uk-prime-minister

www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/andy-burnham-property-tax-stamp-duty-b3001061.html

www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/ce37jj4kx9no

Should be enough to give you the “flavour”

This is a weird time capsule from Carol Cadwalladr interviewing Burnham ten years ago after he had quit Westminster to stand for Mayor.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/31/andy-burnham-ready-to-leave-westminster-mayor-manchester-interview

Extracts:

The position I’ve taken is highly consistent with what I’ve always done, in that if you remember in 2006, I think it was, there was a kind of effort to remove Tony Blair. When people asked me to take part in that, I didn’t. In 2009, my good friend James Purnell resigned on a local election night and called upon prime minister Gordon Brown to do the same] and I was asked to take part in that, and I didn’t. I’m pretty consistent in the way that I do these things. I personally fear that there’s a problem where MPs look like they’re trying to dictate an outcome the party is not on board with.

Hmm ...

…He tells me a bit too emphatically how fed up with “the Westminster shenanigans” he is. You say that, I reply, but you’ve literally spent your entire career engaged in the shenanigans, haven’t you?

“There’s always been facets of it I don’t particularly like. There’s a kind of inbuilt snobbery in the place. It doesn’t take too well to people with accents. The more I’ve seen of this country at close quarters, in terms of the establishment, that frightens me.”

But, Andy, I say, you are the establishment.

“Well, no.”

You were a secretary of state. You can’t get much more establishment than that.

“You’re here today, gone tomorrow as a minister. It’s the permanent civil service, the leading figures in the police, I would include the media in it. If you look at some of the historical injustices we’ve been working on in recent times, what they all have in common is a kind of nexus of power between people in politics, the police, the press and the civil service. And I’ve never felt part of that.”

Ten years is a long time in politics …

I think what Graphite has posted does sum up Farage quite well. He wants to destabilise the UK. Calling for a GE would cause more disruption.
Farage does not have the interests of the British people in his plans. He would bring people like Harborne here with his crypto hub leading to money laundering and other corrupt practices.
Farage is only interested in making more money very like his hero in the US.

I’d like to see a competition for the leadership, but I don’t see how it is logical to say ‘we don’t know what Burnham stands for’, what is meant by that? He is a Labour politician with a track record of delivery, and he’s open about his political beliefs. There is already a Manifesto to deliver against. What are people expecting, a Marxist revolution - he is soft left, for goodness sake!

In my opinion Farage is flying a kite, because his sins are going to catch up with him soon, and he wants to leave a legacy.

Casdon

I’d like to see a competition for the leadership, but I don’t see how it is logical to say ‘we don’t know what Burnham stands for’, what is meant by that? He is a Labour politician with a track record of delivery, and he’s open about his political beliefs. There is already a Manifesto to deliver against. What are people expecting, a Marxist revolution - he is soft left, for goodness sake!

In my opinion Farage is flying a kite, because his sins are going to catch up with him soon, and he wants to leave a legacy.

Mmmm

I get your thoughts about a competitive leadership competition, but thinks it’s game playing at this point.

As for Farage, I’d hate to think what sort of legacy he thinks he’ll leave behind?

An MEP hellbent on destroying the EU?

An MP with the worst voting record ever?

A party (limited company founder ) who cannot even ensure vetting procedures which work?

Only my opinion of course

AGAA4

I think what Graphite has posted does sum up Farage quite well. He wants to destabilise the UK. Calling for a GE would cause more disruption.
Farage does not have the interests of the British people in his plans. He would bring people like Harborne here with his crypto hub leading to money laundering and other corrupt practices.
Farage is only interested in making more money very like his hero in the US.

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Goodness, he is very defensive about the £5m, this just came up on BBC News.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0vx2edk0vo

That’s an interesting insight Graphite.

I recently watched a fascinating documentary about the inner workings of the lead up to the Brexit referendum, the campaigns etc.

One insider said that Johnson really didn’t believe in, understand or care about leaving the EU. For him it was (and I quote) “rather like A Game of Thrones”.

I would say Farage is the same kind of personality.

Casdon

Goodness, he is very defensive about the £5m, this just came up on BBC News.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0vx2edk0vo

Oo, he is tetchy isn’t he. Perhaps it’s all getting a bit too close to the truth now.

He ‘shoots himself in the foot’ in the interview when he repeatedly asks the interviewers what they spend their ‘salary’ on, comparing his £5million ‘gift’ to their salaries.

Salary, Mr Farage, is not a ‘gift with no expectation of anything in return’ - salary, Mr Farage, is payment for services rendered. Just saying!

I don't like Farage, can't stand him but I'm not surprised he got tetchy during that interview. The 'gift' itself is being investigated but as he said, what he spends it on and how much if any has been spent on security is no one else's business.

Sally Nugent didn't come across very well IMO, asking a question and then talking over Farage because she didn't like the answer he was giving. I thought she looked rather uncomfortable when the interview was over. Maybe she realised how unprofessional she came across.

He was on BBC Breakfast this morning - Sally Nugent gave him a great grilling on the £5 million

Total Grifter absolutely roasted by Sally when asked how much have you spent "It's none of your business" Oh Nigel how wrong you are we the taxpayers need to know why you were paid by a dodgy billionaire that doesn't reside in the UK and exactly what it was for - "nobody cares" you cry - yes yes we do Nigel and we want you to be accountable to each and everyone of us!

LizzieDrip

That’s an interesting insight Graphite.

I recently watched a fascinating documentary about the inner workings of the lead up to the Brexit referendum, the campaigns etc.

One insider said that Johnson really didn’t believe in, understand or care about leaving the EU. For him it was (and I quote) “rather like A Game of Thrones”.

I would say Farage is the same kind of personality.

I'd like to go to one of his rallies because I'm fascinated by the way he can manipulate people [like the old school evangelists]. Almost afraid that I'd be sucked in as if I've been hypnotised. He has a terrifying power over people but quickly loses his temper if it isn't working over someone. Someone who worked with him said he's incredibly nice to work with and readily available[ unless he's being scrutinised over a mis deed that is].

Have heard from a Wigan local that the reform candidate never was a plumber - just did that to pretend he had something in common with the potential reform voter.
The business was set up quite recently.
Has anyone on gransnet availed themselves of his services.

His agressive deflection strategy only works for a while.
Interviewers are not being put off so easily now that they have become used to it.

Farage was interviewed at length on TV today. He was rude to the interviewer (female) and refused to answer all her questions.
He is a creep!

Cossy

So, to lighten the mood somewhat, has anyone seen Nigel Farage of late?

Someone a week or so ago stated he’s always in Clacton on Fridays? Is he? Doing what, I ask myself? He doesn’t run surgeries or any kind of meet up or run general meetings with his constituency members, ever.

He last managed to turn up at Westminster on June 3rd, for PMQT, however prior to that he last attended a parliamentary vote on 18th March, having now (allegedly) missed 77 consecutive votes.

What is (or isn’t) this man doing to earn his not insubstantial MP salary?

Is this really the kind of politician our country needs? Are his supporters truly deluded enough to believe this man is PM material?

He's probably under a stone somewhere

ronib

Nigel is busy sending emails to demand a general election. So following the example of Andy Burnham in the same circumstances.

Exactly! In Opposition Labour MPs were always calling for resignations, sackings and General Elections Now they're getting a taste of their own medicine they don't like it.

You're right!

If Andy Burnham turns out to be popular and rules wisely Nigel will be history. He was doing very well because Starmer wasn’t and people were desperate for an alternative. He also now has a genuine far right opponent in that rather ghastly Rupert Lowe.

orly

ronib

Nigel is busy sending emails to demand a general election. So following the example of Andy Burnham in the same circumstances.

Exactly! In Opposition Labour MPs were always calling for resignations, sackings and General Elections Now they're getting a taste of their own medicine they don't like it.

They don’t care, why would they, they hold the cards with three years until the next election?

eazybee

Farage is about, and as usual , he ha summed up the current situation perfectly, calling for a Labour leadership contest at the very least, preferably a General Election, because, as is coming from all sides, 'we don't know what Burnham stands for.'
I really don't think Farage wants to be PM, but as a political commentator and analyst he can communicate the current situation with clarity, and his comments are extremely pertinent.

If he doesn't want to be PM, he should get out of politics altogether. Judging by the lack of time he spends in Parliament and his constituency, he doesn't like being an MP very much either but it gets him the attention he craves. He feels irrelevant if he doesn't have a camera shoved in his face.

If he wants to continue being a political commentator, he should resign as an MP, give someone who is committed to public service an opportunity to do the job properly and clear off to Youtube.

Exactly! In Opposition Labour MPs were always calling for resignations, sackings and General Elections Now they're getting a taste of their own medicine they don't like it

orly it’s what happens.

No-one took any notice of Labour MPs when they they did it. Similarly, no-one’s taking any notice of Farage now🤷‍♀️

I haven’t heard any Labour MPs saying they don’t like it … please correct me if I’m wrong.

He should give up the EMP £73,000 he has.