Where’s Nigel?

Meandrogrog

What about the glasses, free tickets and clothes that Starmer got? Is that different somehow?

Are you serious?

Don’t remember KS promoting the suppliers of his specs & suits so that they benefitted financially … unless you know different!

Chestnut

foxie48

Farage has nothing to fear from me and I suspect that neither does he have anything to fear from any of the other "grans" on the site. I don't hate him, I loathe him because he is morally bankrupt and I don't spread "vitriol" I merely point out that he doesn't attend the HoC , has links to Russia and accepts money from very suspect sources and doesn't declare them properly. These are facts and could not even be classed as opinion. On the other hand, Farage has made inflammatory statements that could induce some to commit harm to innocent people. I rest my case!

I'm not saying that Farage needs to fear physical violence from any of us grans! 😂

But the feelings expressed on this thread are very strong, and this will also be evident from others in the real world, so I would accept that security is probably needed for him more than for most.

In agreement_ Farage needs fear no physical violence from his detractors, on Gransnet or any other forum, posting negative written comments. Are you seriously suggesting the electorate are not allowed to post their written opinions
about his dubious actions, perceived as corrupt, currently under investigation, his questionable behaviours and the divisive comments he frequently makes.

You still have not explained why he needs more security than any other politician- it's a mystery to many why he feels so special.

LemonJam You still have not explained why he needs more security than any other politician- it's a mystery to many why he feels so special.
He obviously feels more threatened because of the aggressive nature of the feelings expressed towards him whether on forums or in the real world. None of us know what threats he has received or whether they were deemed serious.

LemonJam Are you seriously suggesting the electorate are not allowed to post their written opinions about his dubious actions
No. I never said that.

Chestnut

LemonJam You still have not explained why he needs more security than any other politician- it's a mystery to many why he feels so special.
He obviously feels more threatened because of the aggressive nature of the feelings expressed towards him whether on forums or in the real world. None of us know what threats he has received or whether they were deemed serious.

So your view is that calculating security risk is subjective and entirely based on the individual politician's personal feelings of threat not on objective facts or any kind of risk assessment.

In that case as long as all other. politicians say they feel as threatened as Farage says he feels they equally deserve a £5million gift from a political donor to spend on security if they so wish or on gambling, or a Ferrari.

You say None of us know what threats he has received or whether they were deemed serious you may not know but the police and security services definitely do know. Thats because every MP has a formal security risk assessment and access to state security based on the facts, threats. and risk factors.

Again it's a mystery why Farage views himself as so different and more special than other politicians.

Chestnut

LemonJam You still have not explained why he needs more security than any other politician- it's a mystery to many why he feels so special.
He obviously feels more threatened because of the aggressive nature of the feelings expressed towards him whether on forums or in the real world. None of us know what threats he has received or whether they were deemed serious.

If people he doesn't like get insulted on forums, the speech is called "hurty words" and not worth bothering about. I would have thought he's man enough to defend himself against hurty words, especially as he dishes quite a few of them out.

How much of the 5 million has Farage spent on security? He becomes defensive and angry when questioned and replies he can spend it on whatever he likes. So not security otherwise he would have said so.

Totally agree with you CatsWhiskas.

Farage has one rule/standard for himself to receive a £5million gift, others don't. He pretends to be more at threat of physical aggression than any other politician- but there is no factual basis for his claim. And some fall for it.....

IMO the £5million was to get Farage to stand as an MP so he could use his influence to promote the donor's crypto business. Which he has done. I'm sure there's also an understanding that if Farage becomes more powerful or needs money to keep building Reform, the money would keep rolling in to support him. With Farage, it's all about the money, just like our friend over the pond.

I share your view foxie48. Farage organised a private' meeting at the Bank of England to try and block the BoE cryptocurrency plan that could be costly for Harborne- his generous £5million gift benefactor.

Farage sure likes to financial matters private and secret when the public deserve and should expect transparency- Nolan Principles.

... you asked "where is he"

You can find him on his new Substack - he says he will publish a "long essay" every month to bypass traditional media.

I assume this is after all the recent noise about the cash gift...

Frankly the type of person who threatens violence or enacts violence against politicians are the type of person who votes for Reform - so I don’t think Farage has anything to worry about.

Yet people will continue to defend this money grubbing racist, LemonJam He thrives because there is a lack of curiosity and a willingness to pretend that he's a "Jack the Lad" on the side of the little people.

NotSpaghetti

... you asked "where is he"

You can find him on his new Substack - he says he will publish a "long essay" every month to bypass traditional media.

I assume this is after all the recent noise about the cash gift...

We should expect more from MPs than virtual "long essays"- good grief!

LemonJam

NotSpaghetti

... you asked "where is he"

You can find him on his new Substack - he says he will publish a "long essay" every month to bypass traditional media.

I assume this is after all the recent noise about the cash gift...

We should expect more from MPs than virtual "long essays"- good grief!

It’s what people do when they are in hiding though, to keeep their faithful on board.

Where is he ? hopefully crawled back under the rock he emerged from !

How would you feel if you were related to Jo Cox or David Ames when he says no-one is more physically at risk than him? Disgusting.

Anyone who thinks there is no difference between a pair of specs and a suit and a £5 million bung needs to give their head a wobble.

vegansrock

How would you feel if you were related to Jo Cox or David Ames when he says no-one is more physically at risk than him? Disgusting.

DH and I knew David Ames, anything and everything should be done to prevent another MP being attacked and god forbid murdered whilst going about their daily business.

Nvella

Frankly the type of person who threatens violence or enacts violence against politicians are the type of person who votes for Reform - so I don’t think Farage has anything to worry about.

What an offensive and divisive comment.

Millions of decent, law-abiding people vote Reform. To imply they're the sort of people who threaten or commit violence is an unjustified smear. Disagree with the party's policies if you wish, but don't insult and stereotype its voters.

Sundowngirl Millions of law abiding people vote Reform.....don't insult and stereotype its voters. A fair comment.

If only the Reform Leader wasn't the subject of ongoing political and legal scrutiny. If only his political conduct was better and he had more personal transparency. If only Farage wasn't so polarising and divisive. If only he was not so money grabbing and self serving. Perhaps he and Reform might be a more attractive voting option.

I can understand why Reform gains votes in local elections- for a change or a protest against current government? I have heard many posters say "Reform could not be any worse". However Reform does not secure a big vote share at GEs and has not done very well in by elections over the past 12 months.

As I'm not really sure what type of voter would vote Reform in a UK GE I googled for the demographics.

Various studies and sites came up with Education as the strongest predictor of voting behaviour in the UK with Reform drawing the vast majority of its support from working class voters and those with lower educational qualifications.

The National Centre for Social Research also claims educational experience is the primary driver also of the Uk's divide on immigration.

Where is he? Hopefully in prison where he'll stay.

vegansrock

Anyone who thinks there is no difference between a pair of specs and a suit and a £5 million bung needs to give their head a wobble.

How obnoxious is that post! I am not the one who needs to ‘give my head a wobble’

The value of the freebies should not matter.

But, of course, it does matter! Some decent specs and a smart suit so the new PM looks the part to represent the UK on the world stage (which were declared) is very different to a £5million bung (which was not declared) to persuade a reluctant man to stand for parliament so that he can represent the interests of a man who live in Thailand.

foxie48

But, of course, it does matter! Some decent specs and a smart suit so the new PM looks the part to represent the UK on the world stage (which were declared) is very different to a £5million bung (which was not declared) to persuade a reluctant man to stand for parliament so that he can represent the interests of a man who live in Thailand.

And you think Starmer was too poor to provide those items for himself?