Could someone tell me what happened to the post ...

fancythat

A few hours ago the op space said something like "opening post withdrawn while we take a look".
Only they only used about 4 words.
My memory is shocking as can be seen!

I hadnt realised the thread had been deleted altogether.

I now think it may have said "post withdrawn pending review".

MawsRosie

Do you mean the thread about Wealth Tax, Inheritance Tax and Income Tax?
Might I respectfully make a suggestion for starting a thread of this type another time ?
Unsurprisingly some posters took exception to the tone of your opening post, your admonition that any posts where the poster had not seen/heard /read your link would be ignored and what sounded like an embargo on any other comments.
As I said, respectfully, if you had, for instance said that so-and so had made such-and- such points in his article/ video/ podcast and would anybody who had seen/read/heard him, like to share their observations?
Not prescriptive, open-ended, inviting discussion and nothing for anybody to object to. Sometimes 🎶it’s not what you say, but the way that you say it (that’s what gets results) 🎶

This seems very sensible to me. Sometimes we all- and I have done this - start a thread where we don't quite say what we want in a way where discussion might gainfully follow, we've felt very strongly about something.

Go Daisy go - it sounds interesting and I'll look out for a reference if you still want to share it

I do admit to feeling uneasy when posters say all sort of secretly "I'll PM you" when in fact the subject can, as we later found out, be alluded to quite openly, ie "Wealth Tax, Inheritance Tax and Income Tax".

I think if I had been a newbie I would have found this idea of openly saying "I'll just tell you by PM" no one else its quite off putting.
Either just PM quietly or just be open? so many of us had found comfort or a little "hello" by PM nice occasionally we needn't paint them as "plots". Just my opinion.

What does trying to control a thread mean?

I think it's different and sometimes accusations of same are reasonable and sometimes not! What occurs off the top of my head..?

Getting into tiffs to avoid the subject/leave the subject for an uncomfortable exchange of personalities that is beyond a little joshing

Trying to introduce what might be called "oh look at the squirrel" - ie a deliberate irrelevancy (as opposed to natural thread drift which is all part of N and P as some subjects have loads of directions)

Saying something so destructive or offensive to a person that all rush to point it out - but then on N and P it is genuinely difficult to separate
"address the post not the poster" and tbh to be expected - news and politics is a real world source of real conflict and division and we cant all be nicey nice nor I venture to say should we - its a matter of degree? For example an angry retort is different from a malicious one?

A possibly useful Thread was removed allegedly because someone took offence at being directed to view a link that would help them understand the topic?

Now I'm totally lost. 🤔 😉

Always sad and a bit grumpy when entire threads are removed.

Did read this one, but I also didn’t respond as I didn’t bother watching the video link, for no other reason than I couldn’t be bothered

And that's fair enough, Cossy.
We mostly all do that don't we?
Skip on, if it's not for us.
Leave the Thread, for those who have an interest.

Maremia

A possibly useful Thread was removed allegedly because someone took offence at being directed to view a link that would help them understand the topic?

It was either deleted because someone reported it for 'thread policing', which seems to have become a new weapon in the Gnet moderators' hands, or, for the sometimes rather 'robust' reactions to the 'directions' which could have been interpreted as personal attacks on the OP. We will never know.

What concerns me is that the OP doesn't appear to have been told that her thread had been deleted. Which seems a bit unfair if it's being notched up against her name for 'thread policing'. (which, again, we can't be sure was the reason for deletion)

I agree that it was a potentially useful, or interesting, thread. Though similar threads don't really provoke much interest.

Cossy

Always sad and a bit grumpy when entire threads are removed.

Did read this one, but I also didn’t respond as I didn’t bother watching the video link, for no other reason than I couldn’t be bothered

Which is sad, as your contribution could have been interesting.

I did respond, even though I hadn't watched the video, because I'm familiar with the video maker's style and viewpoint.

I shouldn’t worry I lose my posts often I just write them again, it really is vey frustrating - don’t let it stop you posting and chatting to folks whom you’re friendly with 😫😫😫

I'm also a bit lost with what's going on with deleted threads, but I always find it amusing when a thread is deleted by GN but someone has used the "Quote" function to respond to it so the post still stands! It does happen 😄

Anyway the deletions and banning etc and what not are quite confusing 😕

All is explained now.
I remember a similar post some time ago when a link was posted, and posters who had not viewed it were instructed to do so before commenting, which apparently caused offence to some.
An argument for leaving the opening post in place.

Retread

I'm also a bit lost with what's going on with deleted threads, but I always find it amusing when a thread is deleted by GN but someone has used the "Quote" function to respond to it so the post still stands! It does happen 😄

Anyway the deletions and banning etc and what not are quite confusing 😕

... but I always find it amusing when a thread is deleted by GN but someone has used the "Quote" function to respond to it so the post still stands! It does happen

I noticed that, too, but HQ usually do pick up on it!

Like others here, I once co-moderated an interest-group on Facebook; the 'interest' was Baroque Music - hardly a controversial subject - or so I thought. If I'd known beforehand how much time and effort would be required to co-moderate, I would've opted not to do it. Things do get missed.

"Anyway the deletions and banning etc and what not are quite confusing"

I used to think they were pretty obvious / straightforward, I admit I now feel a tad wary, due to recent events.

Some considerable time ago now I was accused and admonished on GN - not in a particularly aggressive way but not politely either - for holding what that poster considered to be an extreme position, politically.

I was genuinely confused because I don't believe I have extreme opinions - on anything - so I read and re-read the observations I'd made that caused this confusion. Eventually I understood - it wasn't what I'd said, but the way I'd said it... and I only 'got it' because I asked a friend who happened to visit us at the time, to read what I'd written and give an objective opinion. He saw a 'tone' to my post that I was entirely unaware of.

... is that part of the problem? Can you cause offence or upset unintentionally simply by your choice of words?

Retread

I'm also a bit lost with what's going on with deleted threads, but I always find it amusing when a thread is deleted by GN but someone has used the "Quote" function to respond to it so the post still stands! It does happen 😄

Anyway the deletions and banning etc and what not are quite confusing 😕

Are you confusing threads with posts?
A thread is made up of individual posts , so if a thread is deleted ….the whole thing disappears.
More often than not a post quoting another post which is subsequently deleted will itself be deleted for precisely that reason.

Yes I meant when a post is deleted, but has since been "reposted" due to the "Quote" function having been used. I realise HQ then delete that too, but sometimes they're not quick enough.

What a palaver it is to keep on top of it all as a moderator... 🤷‍♀️

Retread

I'm also a bit lost with what's going on with deleted threads, but I always find it amusing when a thread is deleted by GN but someone has used the "Quote" function to respond to it so the post still stands! It does happen 😄

Anyway the deletions and banning etc and what not are quite confusing 😕

You can’t quote on a banned thread because there is nothing to quote. Every comment on that thread is now in the either.

This all sounds incredibly boring. Move on to threads that offer more and these silly ones will die.

I think the irritating thing was the dictatorial OP. I doubt they would like to be told they should opt out of a thread for not following instructions.

I guess we will never know now. I am amazed that the OP was not told the reason her thread was deleted.
I am not surprised. I felt that tone was harsh and controlling, though it could have been useful information for some.
But we are not supposed to discuss other threads on here, are we?

There are some very ‘different’ people on here but I guess that is what makes it interesting. In real life I never ,ever, meet anyone like some here, it is an eye opener. We tend to be a lot less intense, or at least those I know are now we are getting older.

nanna8

There are some very ‘different’ people on here but I guess that is what makes it interesting. In real life I never ,ever, meet anyone like some here, it is an eye opener. We tend to be a lot less intense, or at least those I know are now we are getting older.

There is a different dynamic when people meet physically from that which exists on forums like this where there is no eye-contact or body language.

Conversation is limited to the printed word written in such a way that posts might sometimes seem like declarations - maybe people are not as intense as they appear to be, in reality.

Then of course there are certain topics about which people have strong feelings and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. We live in uncertain times and people are worried about the future. Trump's war has not helped and those already worrying about the ultimate effect on their fuel bills might well have some strong feelings about it! However, it looks like a deal has been reached and that will be a relief - but these cease-fires and deals are sometimes quite flimsy... so who knows.

It was either deleted because someone reported it for 'thread policing', which seems to have become a new weapon in the Gnet moderators' hands, or, for the sometimes rather 'robust' reactions to the 'directions' which could have been interpreted as personal attacks on the OP. We will never know.
Agreed. IMO either seems equally likely.

There’s a very tetchy atmosphere on GN just now. If HQ are banning for unspecified patterns of behaviour I wouldn’t be surprised to see more before long.

If they were more transparent about their thinking it would be better for all of us, and might lessen some of the tension.

Has the OP come back to comment on this thread?

GrannyGravy13

Has the OP come back to comment on this thread?

Yes she came back to say thanks for the updates as to what happened.