Churchill to be axed from British banknotes in the name of diversity.

....signalling not signally

Or even spiders, spinning webs of deceit? 🕷 😁

Warmglovesandsocks

I agree totally with you Sago.

Except that what is written in the OP is not what is happening. Why support what isn't the case?

DaisyAnneReturns

Warmglovesandsocks

I agree totally with you Sago.

Except that what is written in the OP is not what is happening. Why support what isn't the case?

A question we could ask about many current issues, DAR ...

Warmglovesandsocks

I agree totally with you Sago.

Thank you for your post Warmglovesandsocks. It has given me the most interesting question to ask the AI I use, followed by an informative discussion (with the AI!).

So, if I may, I'll ask one question. What makes you agree with the OP; how did you decide that you agreed with this source?

Chocolatelovinggran

FranP, as I mentioned up thread, WW2 is taught in history in schools, and Ms Austen is on the English literature syllabus of many examining boards.

I'd like to know if Charles Dickens is taught in schools. Shakespeare seems to get more attention, but Dickens really needs to be taught because of the social relevance. Is Austin more relevant?

Churchill was not as widely popular as most here believe,My Welsh aunt used to tell me us how unpopular he was in her part of Wales,of course he wasn,t wanted in Parts of Scotland either and the Irish had many issues with him over decades.
Let’s not forget he was the first to implement the use of concentration camps in Africa or the Bengali massacre.
A bit of a mixed bag was old Winnie..hated by as many as liked him.Ask the families of the Scottish battalions left behind on the Beaches who he more or less said were no loss …their families would beg to differ .One of my uncles was amongst them and the air would turn blue if Churchills name was mentioned

Not forgetting Gallipoli, paddyanne. Though tbf to him he felt great guilt and joined up to fight.

I'd like to know if Charles Dickens is taught in schools. Shakespeare seems to get more attention, but Dickens really needs to be taught because of the social relevance. Is Austin more relevant?

Great Expectations was a GCSE text when I was working in a secondary school but that was a decade ago. And only snatches of it. When I was at school, more decades ago, we read the whole book (along with those of other Victorian authors and Shakespeare) but it doesn't seem to happen now.

Austen is pure literary appreciation. Best left to Uni IMO.

Chestnut

Chocolatelovinggran

FranP, as I mentioned up thread, WW2 is taught in history in schools, and Ms Austen is on the English literature syllabus of many examining boards.

I'd like to know if Charles Dickens is taught in schools. Shakespeare seems to get more attention, but Dickens really needs to be taught because of the social relevance. Is Austin more relevant?

A level:
Common set texts include:
Shakespeare: Othello, The Taming of the Shrew, Measure for Measure
Pre-1900 Drama & Poetry: A Doll's House by Henrik Ibsen, The Duchess of Malfi by John Webster, and selections from Geoffrey Chaucer or John Milton.
Post-1900 Drama: A Streetcar Named Desire by Tennessee Williams, Top Girls by Caryl Churchill, and The Crucible by Arthur Miller.
Prose: The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood, Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë, and The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald.
There is a pretty comprehensive list by exam board here.
schoolreadinglist.co.uk/secondary-ks3-ks4-reading-lists/a-level-english-set-texts/

To be honest the way things are at the moment I think The Handmaid's Tale is the most relevant. Even some of the summer clothes in the shops seem to be aimed at Gilead.

Thank you, Mamie for answering this for Chestnut.
Examination boards vary in what they list as options, as you say, so one student's experience might be quite different from another.
My thirteen year old GC has read some Dickens and is studying A Midsummer Night's Dream this term.
I do not care for Ms Austen's work at all, but I know that she has her fans.

Chocolatelovinggran

Thank you, Mamie for answering this for Chestnut.
Examination boards vary in what they list as options, as you say, so one student's experience might be quite different from another.
My thirteen year old GC has read some Dickens and is studying A Midsummer Night's Dream this term.
I do not care for Ms Austen's work at all, but I know that she has her fans.

For A level English Literature, I, my daughter and my eldest granddaughter all did Othello. 😂

When did they stop studying the Canterbury Tales?

paddyann54

Churchill was not as widely popular as most here believe,My Welsh aunt used to tell me us how unpopular he was in her part of Wales,of course he wasn,t wanted in Parts of Scotland either and the Irish had many issues with him over decades.
Let’s not forget he was the first to implement the use of concentration camps in Africa or the Bengali massacre.
A bit of a mixed bag was old Winnie..hated by as many as liked him.Ask the families of the Scottish battalions left behind on the Beaches who he more or less said were no loss …their families would beg to differ .One of my uncles was amongst them and the air would turn blue if Churchills name was mentioned

Great deal of poetic licence being exercised here.

The 51st Highland Division, commanded to hold the line, while other troops were rescued from Dunkirk.
Did he really say 'no great loss' about their brave sacrifice?

There is no record of it. Pure myth.

What about the 'Reel of the 51st'? Famously invented by the 51st Highlanders when in pow camp?

What about it?

No record of what OldFrill, the holding of the line,
or Churchill's comment?
That's why I asked.

Mamie, I, too, studied Othello for A level in 1970.

I don't see a question about the holding of the line. I answered the question about whether he said no great loss.

Perhaps you leap-frogged my post at 17.35?
That happens to me all the time.

The 51st Highland Division was commanded to hold the line to give the troops time to evacuate from Dunkirk.
They were all either killed or captured.
We were considering what comment Churchill may have made.

This is your post @ 17:35
"The 51st Highland Division, commanded to hold the line, while other troops were rescued from Dunkirk.
Did he really say 'no great loss' about their brave sacrifice?"

To which l responded @18:10
"There is no record of it. Pure myth."

You asked only one question and l replied to that question.