Henry Nowak…….an absolute tragedy.

Surely if someone says they have been stabbed (victim or not) any normal person/police officer would check if they had been, not handcuff them and read them their rights.

Labour are reluctant to overly criticise ethic minorities as they represent their vote. Always the vote with politicians.

I watched Rees-Mogg's take on tge situation, and I loathe that man, but i agreed with his points entirely.
Is he a racist thug?

I can't find any comments from starmer before the last couple of days.
I certainly don't have to be taken in by either him, farage, or robinson.
I think it is bad form for the country's leader, who supposedly represents us, to remain silent up until now.

You mean in the way people were taken in by the George Floyd protests, ( and any 'progressive' chant that people follow blindly) those people who take the time to read the Guardian, etc.

MissAdventure

Do you think that people who are champing at the bit, looking for trouble are going to do that?

"The meme and the claim that Prime Minister Keir Starmer remained silent on Henry Nowak's death stem from GB News and political figures on the right, including Reform UK's Nigel Farage and Robert Jenrick. They circulated the narrative to accuse Starmer of a "double standard" compared to his past responses to racial injustice.The criticism primarily spread across social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook, where hard-right accounts paired photos of the handcuffed, dying teenager with side-by-side images of Starmer previously taking the knee for George Floyd. This created a viral talking point accusing the PM of ignoring the plight of a British citizen."

I wondered where all the George Floyd stuff had come from.
It is sad to see people so easily taken in by that.
It seems people had made time to look at GB News, Instagram and Facebook.

Keir Starmer actually commented back in December when Henry Nowak was killed.

Yes, it's very conplex.

It will also be beyond the individual officers, it will be guidance, culture, etc.

My anger is with the police who immediately jumped to conclusions and treated a young boy in his dying moments appallingly.
They should be prosecuted like the police in the George Floyd case.
Murders ( sadly ) happen every day. All colours killing all colours, the issue here is how the police responded 😡

I'm more than angry with the policeman who when Henry said he had been stabbed said "I don't think you have mate" I personally think he should face charges.

Sago my feeling towards the police is huge contempt for not 'seeing' the situation and only listening to the man who was lying and ignoring a dying man.

AGAA4

All my anger is directed at the man who stabbed Henry to death and the family who aided him. I don't think anger directed at Starmer is justified here. It just diffuses the justified anger at the murderer.

What about the Police who allowed him to die?
Any anger for them?

Do you think that people who are champing at the bit, looking for trouble are going to do that?

If people take the trouble to Google "Starmer's comments on Henry Nowak's Death", you will find reports from multiple sources of plenty of comments. Even one reported by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

I think there are many cases where anger is directed in a number of directions, this has never been a problem before, why is it an issue now.

Starmer is a lawyer. He knows not to comment in a way that might influence the case.

All my anger is directed at the man who stabbed Henry to death and the family who aided him. I don't think anger directed at Starmer is justified here. It just diffuses the justified anger at the murderer.

Mamie

MissAdventure

What i mean, twaddle, is that Starmers silence up until now has spoken volumes, without saying a word.
It leaves room for people like Farage to step up to the plate, and address how people ate feeling.
Nobody has said "all brown people are bad, not one word about the sikh community (apart from the observation that they are peaceful people in the main)
Just adressing the fact that reactions have been far from immediate, far from respectful, far from open, and far from satisfactory.

You mean this sort of silence?
"Starmer said in a TV interview at Downing Street: “Nigel Farage is completely wrong to use this to try and create division. He would be wrong in any circumstances, but when Henry’s family are saying, ‘Please don’t do that, it’s our son’, then really, as politicians, as human beings, we should start where they start.”
Sounds good to me.

Precisely. I’m totally bemused by some of the comments on this thread .

Farage isnt the first person to politicise a murder, again what did people think was going to happen.

Yes, the kind of silence that's only broken because someone else has pointed it out.
Very quick to take the knee for Floyd - before the trial, and release the picture to social media.

Personally, i feel rage without any input from farage.

What sort of politician calls for 'rage'?

MissAdventure

What i mean, twaddle, is that Starmers silence up until now has spoken volumes, without saying a word.
It leaves room for people like Farage to step up to the plate, and address how people ate feeling.
Nobody has said "all brown people are bad, not one word about the sikh community (apart from the observation that they are peaceful people in the main)
Just adressing the fact that reactions have been far from immediate, far from respectful, far from open, and far from satisfactory.

You mean this sort of silence?
"Starmer said in a TV interview at Downing Street: “Nigel Farage is completely wrong to use this to try and create division. He would be wrong in any circumstances, but when Henry’s family are saying, ‘Please don’t do that, it’s our son’, then really, as politicians, as human beings, we should start where they start.”
Sounds good to me.

Surely Starmer held off from speaking until the judge had been heard first and sentence passed?

What i mean, twaddle, is that Starmers silence up until now has spoken volumes, without saying a word.
It leaves room for people like Farage to step up to the plate, and address how people ate feeling.
Nobody has said "all brown people are bad, not one word about the sikh community (apart from the observation that they are peaceful people in the main)
Just adressing the fact that reactions have been far from immediate, far from respectful, far from open, and far from satisfactory.

This is the final straw for Labour and Starmer. They’re finished.

Badenoch told BBC Newsnight on Tuesday that when Keir Starmer was leader of the opposition he took the knee, a symbolic gesture against racism, following Floyd's death
They were taking the knee for something that happened in another country", she said
I want them to take as seriously what is happening in this country, what they did with George Floyd

Exactly. But they never will.