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Henry Nowak…….an absolute tragedy.

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Sago Fri 29-May-26 08:41:07

How has the tragic case of this young man not caused outrage?

Imagine if he had been a person of colour or ethnic minority.

The Police handling of this case raises serious questions.

The killer behaved appallingly, lying to Police and then getting his family to hide weapons and cover for him.

It’s also astonishing to learn Sikhs can carry these knives in public because they are “ religious regalia”

For anyone that isn’t aware of this tragedy here is a link.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70vy0kknj4o

eazybee Wed 03-Jun-26 14:01:43

Perhaps you will believe this, from Mark Nowak:
•His father, Mark, said: "Henry told officers that he could not breathe nine times. He told them that he had been stabbed four times. Henry was pulled across the gravel, his hands forced behind his back and he was placed in handcuffs."
•He said the contrast between how his son and Digwa had been treated was "unbearable".
•"Henry should not have died on the streets of Southampton in police custody," he added.
•In the footage, a police officer arriving at the scene can be heard asking: "What's your name, mate?"
•Nowak, who is lying on his back on the ground, faintly replies: "Henry."
As the video continues, Digwa steps into the frame. He claims Nowak had taken his turban off and grabbed him by the hair.
The officer asks Digwa if he is injured, to which Digwa replies: "Yeah, yeah, I've got a swollen eye here, a little bruise here."
•Officers then turn to Nowak, who can be heard repeating "I've been stabbed" and then "I can't breathe" while he is made to sit up to be handcuffed.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 13:58:26

They did ask him, eventually, and he told them his face...
I think he was no longer able to sustain himself by then, though.

AGAA4 Wed 03-Jun-26 13:55:08

The police officers had been told no weapons were used then they hear the alleged perpetrator of the racial attack say they have been stabbed. It must have caused some disbelief.
I do think they should have asked Mr Nowak where he had been stabbed and by whom before dismissing this as lies.
Those two police officers must be feeling bad as they fell for the lies told by the real culprit and his brother.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 13:49:50

They asked the murderer to step into the light a bit so they could check his "bruised eye" whilst Henry lay on the floor.
Pretty fair assumption, I'd say

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 13:47:40

An assumption based on watching the footage taken at the time.

twaddle Wed 03-Jun-26 13:44:40

MissAdventure

They didn't realise, because they paid no attention - too busy listening to the murderer.

That's an assumption.

twaddle Wed 03-Jun-26 13:43:16

Galaxy

I am not calling farage progressive maremia, as I have said I don't particularly blame him for the obsession with race and other identity characteristics, I blame the progressives. I don't know what else to call them. They refuse to have any discussion or take any form of accountability, they simply shout far right and hope the issues will go away.

You appear the think that the population is divided neatly into two camps. That is not my experience. Many people aren't tribal and can evaluate a situation from a number of different perspectives. Unfortunately, it is true that some people can't.

LemonJam Wed 03-Jun-26 13:37:23

Channel 5 news released the call that Digwa's brother made to the police. In that call he said his brother had been racially attacked, physically and stressed that a couple of times and that he needed someone there asap please and gave the address. he was specifically asked by the call operator were. there any weapons involved and Digwa's brother said no.

So the police officers were dispatched with a disposition of a racial physical attack on Digwa, brother in same vicinity and that no weapons had been involved.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 03-Jun-26 13:36:56

eazybee

There was no need to handcuff him as he was not resisting arrest, was clearly in distress; the supposed victim was not and had family support. Henry told police four times he had been stabbed; they were more concerned with 'cuffing him.

They should have used their time in an examination of his torso and calling an ambulance.

Yes 👍🏻

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 13:36:19

They didn't realise, because they paid no attention - too busy listening to the murderer.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 13:30:27

Its normal to take immediate action in a situation requiring first aid.
Again, instructions are to check the person who is quiet.

Cossy Wed 03-Jun-26 13:28:40

David49

I think the way the police have been demonized over this tragedy,
They were told by Digwan that he had been stabbed, fearing that Nowak had a knife they handcuffed him, very quickly they realized it was him that had been stabbed.

Who would join the police you are damned if you take action and damned if you don't.

I’m afraid I agree, although it turned out they were very wrong, they acted on info they were given by the brother on the phone, then this info was confirmed by the perp at the scene. It was apparently very dark and they didn’t realise Henry was injured at first.

They should have checked to see why Henry was on the ground.

The only people to blame for this awful event are the person who stabbed him and his awful family!

LemonJam Wed 03-Jun-26 13:26:02

David49

I think the way the police have been demonized over this tragedy,
They were told by Digwan that he had been stabbed, fearing that Nowak had a knife they handcuffed him, very quickly they realized it was him that had been stabbed.

Who would join the police you are damned if you take action and damned if you don't.

I am in agreement with you David49.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 13:25:53

Aa i understand it, the murderer said that his turban had been pulled off, and he had a slightly swollen eye.
I don't recall him saying he had been stabbed.

David49 Wed 03-Jun-26 13:24:39

tragedy is apalling

David49 Wed 03-Jun-26 13:20:24

I think the way the police have been demonized over this tragedy,
They were told by Digwan that he had been stabbed, fearing that Nowak had a knife they handcuffed him, very quickly they realized it was him that had been stabbed.

Who would join the police you are damned if you take action and damned if you don't.

Flippin2 Wed 03-Jun-26 13:12:04

It's a shame that the protesters turned to violence,to stand quietly would have been more powerful, I am firmly of the belief that racism is not one sided,that poor boy was denied any help or belief from the police because of the race card being played,it has to change so it never happens again..

LemonJam Wed 03-Jun-26 12:55:54

Oreo

The reason that Starmer has to go is that single handedly he’s sabotaging Labour’s chances at the next GE.
There’s time to turn it around, but only just.

This is why I support Burnham winning Makerfield- another thread really.

Rosie51 Wed 03-Jun-26 12:53:39

Oreo

Can we stop calling the family Novak please, it’s Nowak, a common Polish name pronounced as Novak.

Could posters please check they are spelling the name correctly, it's the respectful thing to do. Nowak

Oreo Wed 03-Jun-26 12:46:32

The reason that Starmer has to go is that single handedly he’s sabotaging Labour’s chances at the next GE.
There’s time to turn it around, but only just.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 12:45:48

Yes, I'd second that.
In the meantime, it's important for those clinging onto power not to allow a foothold to anyone tjay may be potentially a threat.

LemonJam Wed 03-Jun-26 12:38:32

MissAdventure

Agreeing with someone's view on a particular subject doesn't mean admiring them, overall.

Happy to change to: Farage and his rhetoric has his admirers and people who agree with this views, but hopefully not enough to win the next elections.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 12:29:05

Agreeing with someone's view on a particular subject doesn't mean admiring them, overall.

LemonJam Wed 03-Jun-26 12:21:08

Meandrogrog

LemonJam

Ilovecheese

As LizzieDrip says
"What a dignified statement given by Henry Novak’s grieving father.

He asked that the murder of his son does not become a cause for division. He stated that the case is not about race. He wants, quite rightly, his son’s memory to be honoured with dignity and love.

Farage et al ignored his words, ignored his feelings, and called for ‘cold hard rage’. A baying mob gave him exactly that - shouting Henry Novak’s name.

They don’t deserve to speak the name of Henry Novak."

I agree with both Lizziedrip and Ilovecheese.

Farage has shown he doesn't give 2 figs for Henry's grieving family or their wishes- instead he callously capitalises on Henry's murder, against the family's expressed request for politicians not to do so, for his own right wing populist/nationalist/ethno-nationalist political gain. Shameful.

Hopefully our next PM

Farage and his rhetoric has his admirers but not enough hopefully to be the next UK PM.

Oreo Wed 03-Jun-26 12:19:17

Can we stop calling the family Novak please, it’s Nowak, a common Polish name pronounced as Novak.