Henry Nowak…….an absolute tragedy.

Another one?

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So do religions.
Still, is anyone going to address Rees Moggs comments on the murder?

Is he some kind of vile racist in a union jack vest?

MayBee70

I’ve seen pictures of Tommy Robinson supporters throwing dustbins at policemen so I think that’s a problem though. Can someone explain what good that is doing?

It isn't, it's just an excuse for thugs to lash out. Unfortunately, protests and demonstrations often get infiltrated by those looking for an excuse to cause trouble.

I’ve seen pictures of Tommy Robinson supporters throwing dustbins at policemen so I think that’s a problem though. Can someone explain what good that is doing?

Meandrogrog

Ilovecheese

I wonder can I ask Meandrogrog, what you think are the main problems this country has, and what you would like Nigel Farage to do, should he come to power?

You really dont know what problems this country has🤣🤣🤣 wow!

Well, I don’t know so could you tell me please.

Ilovecheese

I wonder can I ask Meandrogrog, what you think are the main problems this country has, and what you would like Nigel Farage to do, should he come to power?

You really dont know what problems this country has🤣🤣🤣 wow!

Oreo

Then police training needs to be vastly improved if the pair who went to the incident is any indication.

I agree with this.
There was zero unbiased assessment of the actual situation and zero safeguarding of all involved seeing as a young man was left to die of stab wounds on the ground.

Then police training needs to be vastly improved if the pair who went to the incident is any indication.

Thank you Twaddle.

Plevey08

I rest my case!

Eh?

You haven't even made a case.

I rest my case!

Plevey08

Your view of police is in this case Lyndie is at best naieve.You can't help save a life with that level of incompetence.

I help train the Police which is extensive.

Your view of police is in this case Lyndie is at best naieve.You can't help save a life with that level of incompetence.

I agree with you, Lyndie.

There is no way the Police Officers went to that call and wanted to get it wrong. Saving life is always their first priority. If they had more time, I am sure they would have twigged what was going on. But we are talking minutes to assess the situation. I know it will be devastating to them that someone died in their care. I can only imagine what the family are going through. My heart goes out to them. Permission was given to release the body cam footage. It's not surprising some people took to the streets. Blaming other for their behaviour is ridiculous. They are adults. We seem to infantilise everyone these days.

Silvershadow

There is two tier policing in this country. The grooming gangs, the Southport murderer where police were involved prior to that, the murderer of those lovely students and man in Nottingham by that evil man, and now this poor chap Henry. They all have something in common.

How was policing at fault in all cases?

We all know that the murderers/perps were from ethnic minority groups (which is presumably what you mean they have in common), but you've forgotten about all the many murders committed by white British people. What do they all have in common?

What all murders have in common, including the man murdered by the "Raise the Colours" murderer is that somebody has died before their time in tragic circumstances and that friends and family will be grieving.

I can't understand (or maybe I can) why you chose just four examples.

I wonder can I ask Meandrogrog, what you think are the main problems this country has, and what you would like Nigel Farage to do, should he come to power?

If this is the mindset of police attending any scene of crime then some serious sackings and retraining needs to be done immediately.They appeared to have no common sense, or sense of urgency or understanding of needing to know why this young lad was laying on the ground posing no threat to anyone, with breathing difficulties telling them 9 times that he couldn't breathe and he'd been stabbed. Then cruelly handcuffed and told don't think you have been stabbed mate. The murderer was standing upright talking away and asked by the police have you been hurt? Erm wasn't that the very question that poor lad needed to hear in his dying moments. This is just so shocking on so many levels.

There is two tier policing in this country. The grooming gangs, the Southport murderer where police were involved prior to that, the murderer of those lovely students and man in Nottingham by that evil man, and now this poor chap Henry. They all have something in common.

What I really struggle with here is that the murderer and his brother were bouncing about like tigger making accusations whilst the real victim was prostate saying he had been stabbed and couldn’t breathe, surely there had to be an assessment of whether Henry had been stabbed and emergency services called before the attending officers believed the word of the other two and made any charges or handcuffed Henry.
If the immediate response was based upon officers being told to prioritise race crimes no matter what then this needs to be seriously reviewed because saying something possibly racist is one thing but murdering another person is very much another, and the accusation of racism is too easy an excuse. Sadly criminals will use the race card if they know it works, and in this case it seems to have worked to a point and robbed a young man of his life and any semblance of dignity in death. Am btw totally against hate crimes of any kind but this should not blind us to heinous crimes like this.

Thanks for that, easybee.

I am sure you think that's what I believe twaddle, but it isn't.

Beyond tragic to read
So how much worse for Henry’s family to bear?

To continue:
•Speaking outside court, Henry Nowak's father Mark said his son "did not die with dignity"
•As the footage continues, the officer can be heard asking where Henry has been stabbed. He then adds: "Don't think you have, mate."
•While being handcuffed, Nowak says "I can't breathe" another three times.
•The officer can be heard saying: "He says he's been stabbed, so let's just check him." He appears to briefly lift Nowak's shirt around the belt area before he is left to lie on his side.
•A female officer can then be heard asking: "Where do you think he's been stabbed? In the face?"
•A male voice replies: "He hasn't been stabbed."
•Nowak, who seems unresponsive, is then told he is being arrested for assault.

It's so very sad. I have grandsons around the age of Henry Nowak and a chance encounter with a violent man intent on harm ..........