Police Probe Andrew Over Sex Offences

The only royals who should be supported are the King, the Queen and the heir to the throne and his immediate family. The remainder of them should find their own way in life like the rest of us. So you have Charles, Camilla, William, Kate and their children only.

Samwam

Yes people have made their own minds up wether pro or anti monarchy. I am just posting what reforms are needed for the monarchy written by those know better than most.

I agree with Casdon - posters are able to make their own minds up whether pro or anti monarchy. They are also able to find out what reforms various republicans and anti monarchists propose. Such proposed reforms don't need to be laid out in detail on a post about Police investigations of AMBW.

A separate post you may feel is merited?

Well the post was about reforms of the monarchy AMW is a royal and there is mention of him too. Thought this might be of interest to anti and pro royals, if they think these reforms are good are needed, to help the monarchy survive.

It may well be of interest- so have started a new post....

If Andrew had been a ‘commoner ‘ ( ghastly description ) no doubt he would be in jail not just for the young women he abused but for the lying and cheating and sharing of confidential information with potential enemies.

Only if he or any other person had been tried in court and found guilty nanna. 'Innocent until proven guilty' may be unpalatable to some but it's how the law works.

Abused women , who are these woman nanna8 ?

The women that he was with that Epstein trafficked to him. But I am totally sure you are aware of that.

Who are the we in this post?

Today, in conjunction with the Daily Mail, we are launching a campaign for greater royal transparency, not least when it comes to money etc

You are totally aware I know , you are totally aware I lied ?

My above post was reply to nanna8

MawsRosie

Who are the we in this post?

Today, in conjunction with the Daily Mail, we are launching a campaign for greater royal transparency, not least when it comes to money etc

Norman Baker former MP and author Andrew Lownie historian and author.

nanna8

If Andrew had been a ‘commoner ‘ ( ghastly description ) no doubt he would be in jail not just for the young women he abused but for the lying and cheating and sharing of confidential information with potential enemies.

I doubt it, and anyway it may still happen, as the police are still making investigations. Many allegations about AMW have been made, but the police and prosecution service need hard evidence to prosecute, not just hearsay.

This kind of reaction is what leads to accusations against perfectly innocent people, like the ex police offier erroneously named as being involved in the Nowak case. She had to leave her home and family and go into hiding from the threats of death to her and her family.

The Police have not yet concluded their investigation- still appealing for witnesses and evidence. Thus the police have not yet made a case to put to the CPS for a decision whether to bring a case to trial (i.e. must have a realistic prospect of success).

No court case- no guilty verdict yet made. In the eyes of UK law AMBW is innocent until proven guilty.

innocent until proven guilty which no doubt we would want to be the case if he were a member of our family.

Smileless2012

^innocent until proven guilty^ which no doubt we would want to be the case if he were a member of our family.

hear, hear