So it begins….. Streeting resigns

Starmer isn't dreaded by all and there really is no need to call him names.

If the reality is a leadership contest: then possible candidates will be laying out their programme.
Hardly strange, hot news? I agree with your post Lemonjam - a contest conducted with respect although the press will do its best to try and provoke the opposite.

It's what happens. I will watch the exchange of views and different approaches with interest. Of course

Yes, I have been concerned about Palantir for months and months, I'm not happy with Streetings' role in it, except it would have to have gone through "HQ".

nanna8

I would say 50:50 whether Burnham even gets elected so no need to worry. The dreaded Starmer will probably live to destroy the Labour Party even further.

He isn’t dreaded and he hasn’t destroyed the party. It’s hell bent on destroying itself but it isn’t his fault. I’m proud to see him representing us on the world stage,something I haven’t felt for a long time about our PM’s. He didn’t inflict Brexit on us and walk away like Cameron. Or crash the economy like Truss.

Dreaded by me and dreaded by a lot over here. Why the big swing in the local elections ? Obviously dreaded by many. But, and a big but, would others challenging him be any better? Remains to be seen .

twaddle

Starmer isn't dreaded by all and there really is no need to call him names.

the dreaded Starmer
isn't actually calling him names, because dreaded is an adjective and not the noun, (name). Technically, you have to call the someone the name. So, the dreaded idiot, Starmer would be calling him a name.

Signed, the irritating, pedantic Marta
= is not calling me names, it's describing me.

MartavTaurus

twaddle

Starmer isn't dreaded by all and there really is no need to call him names.

the dreaded Starmer
isn't actually calling him names, because dreaded is an adjective and not the noun, (name). Technically, you have to call the someone the name. So, the dreaded idiot, Starmer would be calling him a name.

Signed, the irritating, pedantic Marta
= is not calling me names, it's describing me.

It's being used as a "fixed epithet". If you've ever studied linguistics, you'll know what one is.

nanna8

Dreaded by me and dreaded by a lot over here. Why the big swing in the local elections ? Obviously dreaded by many. But, and a big but, would others challenging him be any better? Remains to be seen .

I don’t see that Australians have any business to ‘dread’ Starmer. He’s our PM, not yours.

Take an interest in UK politics by all means, but don’t act surprised and offended when people take issue with your opinions.

Why would many Australians dread Starmer? I don’t understand.

Mamie

Having lived in France for twenty years, I would say the reasons most frequently expressed for wanting to be in the UK are family, the language and the lack of identity cards, which makes it easier to hide under the radar. I don't understand why people who are concerned about immigration are not campaigning for identity cards?

You’ve been on GN long enough to know that lots of people are anti-identity cards for various reasons.

Streeting has formally recognised that Brexit was a disaster.

Whitewavemark2

Streeting has formally recognised that Brexit was a disaster.

I think he’s trying to throw a spanner in Burnham’s works. He has said that he will campaign for him in Makerfield. I understand that it is in a high Brexit voting area. So, Burnham campaigner is now known to want to overturn the Brexit vote (or ‘ignore/destroy democracy’ as many put it). So probably Burnham does too? ‘No way are we voting for that!’

Burnham loses to Reform. Sneaky Streeting has removed a rival…

Feasible?

I agree Maizie, I assume that is a plan to ensure Burnham loses.

I don't want Streeting to become PM but whoever gets in will be hounded by the media until they find something to discredit them.

I am another one who thinks that Wes Streeting has thrown Andy Burnham under the bus

In the event of Starmer resigning, Burnham and Streeting won’t be the only candidates in the ring. So there may be more road kill yet.

Perhaps Burnham's first test will be to see if he can keep Streeting under control while canvassing

Burnham is not a particularly good campaigner.

All these wretched machinations when all we want is sound government

Burnham’s plans first the future just sound like what Labour are doing anyway. I’d like to know where the money is coming from for him to re nationalise water. Especially given that all this disruption is messing up the economy which seemed to be improving. I suppose that it will take a nose dive but will improve when he takes over the party so he can say it’s down to him but actually due to a bit of political stability being restored.

I can’t see Streeting getting the support to be a serious contender.

Burnham, like most has got better at campaigning over the years. He has campaigned successfully over the past 10 years, three times for GM Mayor role- so campaigned well. He ran a highly visibly, celebrated campaign on behalf of families affected by the Hillsborough tragedy. He's considered to be an effective and popular campaigner with cross party appeal.

He will need to keep Streeting in check- and make sure the Makerfield residents know that Streeting's views about the future of the Labour Party may not 100% match with his own. That is Burnham needs to be clear in his own vision and messages.

The fundamental question is winning back trust for the Labour Party going forward- any leadership contest between Streeting and Burnham (+ any other contenders) comes later.

Interestingly, Burnham is now top of the pops in the YouGov Politician popularity poll, considerably above all the current party leaders.

I have no wish to see Burnham in his running shorts again

What’s wrong with Andy Burnham in running shorts? Hairy legs?? Anniebach

Anniebach

I have no wish to see Burnham in his running shorts again

Has he got to wear jogging bottoms when he runs?
🏃‍♂️🚶‍♂️
That might slow him up, Anniebach 😁