So it begins….. Streeting resigns

mumstheword86

Agree with many people Country in in dire straights
its the policys that have taken place recently c/o our Chancellor Rachael Reeves Upping basic wage therefore small busness owners cant afford staff Busness council tax rates have increased dramatically for small busness How can you do this to small busness owners struggling already to keep afloat Two child cap benfit taken away now can claim more benifits even if you dont have space in your home to have more children So many large families living in our appartment block who need houses but cant afford to buy one and are waiting for council to re house them
My parents always told us not to expect or want what you cant afford So many over wieght people in thesupermarkets with tatoos shopping baskets with unhealthy food in their baskets plus dog food or cat food Why oh Why do many have no common sense these days
enough of my rant sorry !!!!!

But that’s why Blair said ‘ education education education’ and from what my teacher daughter tells me he was true to his word. Whatever faults their parents have it isn’t the fault of the children and they need all the help they can get to move out of poverty.

Agree with many people Country in in dire straights
its the policys that have taken place recently c/o our Chancellor Rachael Reeves Upping basic wage therefore small busness owners cant afford staff Busness council tax rates have increased dramatically for small busness How can you do this to small busness owners struggling already to keep afloat Two child cap benfit taken away now can claim more benifits even if you dont have space in your home to have more children So many large families living in our appartment block who need houses but cant afford to buy one and are waiting for council to re house them
My parents always told us not to expect or want what you cant afford So many over wieght people in thesupermarkets with tatoos shopping baskets with unhealthy food in their baskets plus dog food or cat food Why oh Why do many have no common sense these days
enough of my rant sorry !!!!!

Casdon

I suspect so MaizieD. I assume that they are not bosom buddies, and haven’t worked directly together? I’d guess it will be a different story once campaigning starts.

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I suspect so MaizieD. I assume that they are not bosom buddies, and haven’t worked directly together? I’d guess it will be a different story once campaigning starts.

Casdon

MaizieD

It's not Burnham's view I'm worried about. It's Streeting's. If he campaigns with Burnham and people know that he advocates rejoining they could well think that is Burnham's view, too. And, as we very well know, once people get an idea into their heads about someone (or something) , especially if it's one they don't agree with, it's just about impossible to shift.

Don’t forget that for Streeting to campaign for Burnham, Burnham must want him to do so.

Well, from what I've read they seem to be a bit too matey for my liking.

But, that could just be being political

MaizieD

It's not Burnham's view I'm worried about. It's Streeting's. If he campaigns with Burnham and people know that he advocates rejoining they could well think that is Burnham's view, too. And, as we very well know, once people get an idea into their heads about someone (or something) , especially if it's one they don't agree with, it's just about impossible to shift.

Don’t forget that for Streeting to campaign for Burnham, Burnham must want him to do so.

To be fair if you start talking about rejoining the EU, it isn't the people's fault if they think that is what Labour stand for

Precisely. And if they don't like it they aren't going to be persuaded otherwise. I think Streeting is being devious.

To be fair if you start talking about rejoining the EU, it isn't the people's fault if they think that is what Labour stand for. One of the criticisms of Starmer I have heard is that he doesn't know how to be political, Streeting seems to have that skill.

It's not Burnham's view I'm worried about. It's Streeting's. If he campaigns with Burnham and people know that he advocates rejoining they could well think that is Burnham's view, too. And, as we very well know, once people get an idea into their heads about someone (or something) , especially if it's one they don't agree with, it's just about impossible to shift.

I want Starmer to stay, I think he's the biz.

BUT I'm predicting Burnham will be elected Makkesfield & finding it hard to be optimistic about Starmer's chances of still being PM in 6 months' time.

Burnham will just have to do the "Broken record" technique -smile, repeat answer firmly, don't get drawn into accusations.

smile, repeat answer firmly, don't get drawn into accusations.

smile, repeat answer firmly, don't get drawn into accusations.

smile, repeat answer firmly, don't get drawn into accusations.

Burnham will want to avoid any discussion about Europe - given his potential constituency.

Reform will want to bring it up constantly

Just to clarify, I have read and checked out Burnham’s spoken view on the EU and any future very very carefully.
His position aligns with the govt one which is to draw closer to the EU as regards trade and customs matters etc.

There is not any statement about rejoining except not to rule it out forever.

Any suggestion otherwise is speculative and possibly deliberately obfuscating.

I cannot imagine why Australian gossip ..... is any great use to us

I said Australian media, not gossip. Sometimes it is interesting to read the news from an overseas aspect.

Oh, to see ourselves as others see us!

I used to wonder or think that myself, but have gone off that idea.

When you turn democracy into entertainment

What year do you think that started?

24 hour news started in 1995.

When you turn democracy into entertainment you can hardly complain if this is what you get. It's noticeable that those who often seem to see democracy in that way are the very one's who complain that they are not getting what they want.

On GN

Obbviously Obviously

MaizieD

nanna8

Dreaded by me and dreaded by a lot over here. Why the big swing in the local elections ? Obviously dreaded by many. But, and a big but, would others challenging him be any better? Remains to be seen .

I don’t see that Australians have any business to ‘dread’ Starmer. He’s our PM, not yours.

Take an interest in UK politics by all means, but don’t act surprised and offended when people take issue with your opinions.

I couldn't agree more. "Obbiously" is not a statistic. Gossip is rarely informed; it thrives on speculation, hearsay, and missing context rather than verified facts. On GN

I cannot imagine why Australian gossip - given with only the political bias of the poster - is any great use to us. Perhaps, someone living abroad, wanting to understand the actuality of views from the "old country" should take on board the cross-section that is bound to exist. Equally, I'm sure, a well reported cross section of Australian views would inform us about the cultural differences and similarities between the two countries.

Well, about the only thing that Starmer hasn't done wrong is to make international affairs worse than they already are. So I still don't see what cause Australians have to 'dread' him.

We don't always know what the Australian media is saying. I used to read an Australian newspaper online but it's behind a paywall now.

Allira

MaizieD

nanna8

Dreaded by me and dreaded by a lot over here. Why the big swing in the local elections ? Obviously dreaded by many. But, and a big but, would others challenging him be any better? Remains to be seen .

I don’t see that Australians have any business to ‘dread’ Starmer. He’s our PM, not yours.

Take an interest in UK politics by all means, but don’t act surprised and offended when people take issue with your opinions.

I don’t see that Australians have any business to ‘dread’ Starmer. He’s our PM, not yours.

I suppose with world events in the turmoil they are at the moment, the actions of leaders worldwide could impinge on others, Starmer included. He seems to be doing the right thing as far as international affairs are concerned.
Trump visiting China and being more or less asked to offer up Taiwan as a bargaining tool would be more worrying in Australia, I would have thought.

Well, about the only thing that Starmer hasn't done wrong is to make international affairs worse than they already are. So I still don't see what cause Australians have to 'dread' him.

I think we all dread Trump. The damage he has caused internally and internationally already is immense. We haven't yet felt the full effects of his little expedition to Iran...

Whitewavemark2

Allira

First he was running then because (I suspect) he couldn’t get the numbers - he wasn’t running but supporting Burnham. At the moment he is running again

Now I have a vision of Streeting running in shorts - what is it with these politicians? 😲

Sorry Whitewave, I do know what you meant, not trying to derail a serious post, honestly.
Ignore me.

No problem. You will laugh or cry or in my case feel furious at the futility of it all.

And we have the spectacle of Farage continuing to rant at the level of immigrants when in fact he is almost solely responsible for he huge increase since Brexit,

Hysterical laughter followed by stamping of feet and weeping with helplessness!!

Allira

^First he was running then because (I suspect) he couldn’t get the numbers - he wasn’t running but supporting Burnham. At the moment he is running again^

Now I have a vision of Streeting running in shorts - what is it with these politicians? 😲

Sorry Whitewave, I do know what you meant, not trying to derail a serious post, honestly.
Ignore me.

No problem. You will laugh or cry or in my case feel furious at the futility of it all.

And we have the spectacle of Farage continuing to rant at the level of immigrants when in fact he is almost solely responsible for he huge increase since Brexit,

MaizieD

nanna8

Dreaded by me and dreaded by a lot over here. Why the big swing in the local elections ? Obviously dreaded by many. But, and a big but, would others challenging him be any better? Remains to be seen .

I don’t see that Australians have any business to ‘dread’ Starmer. He’s our PM, not yours.

Take an interest in UK politics by all means, but don’t act surprised and offended when people take issue with your opinions.

Surprised and offended ? Well you must have found a post I haven’t written. I would be surprised not to receive comments , I know I am in the minority here. I still keep my view of that man, it will never change, so don’t waste your breath on me. I am not offended because, unlike some others, you were not rude to me.