Starmer’s Speech today.

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

Barbour jackets are designed to withstand mud and rain. My brother is outside in all weathers beating for pheasant shoots, metal detecting, walking, gardening etc and his decades old Barbour jacket is still as good as new.

Oreo

Cossy

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

He wears it, with his cap, to The Frinton Cricket Club, where no doubt he’ll make an appearance during Cricket Week in early August.

…and this matters how?

It matters because it shows what a fraud he is. Beer swigging man of the working class one minute, friend of the farmers the next. Shows himself to be all things to all people when, in fact he’s just working for his uber rich backers.

I agree with you here, one of our DD is a primary school teacher in a deprived area. Due to issues with RAAC she had a class of 44 little ones for a year. The DoE didn’t release the required funds for temporary buildings.

Thank you Cossy. 44 children in one class, that's some challenge for your daughter! An impossible one, I'd say.

Why do none of them have the guts to standup and say 'We got it wrong and this is what we will do to put it right

M0nica I must be living in a different world to you, because that’s exactly what Keir Starmer did yesterday - saw it with my own eyes; heard it with my own ears.

Regarding the ugly, rude comments about the Prime Minister on this thread … they say more about the posters than the PM.

Oreo

Actually I very much doubt that Farage really wants Starmer to go as he wants an unpopular PM in place at the next GE.

So why was the Reform council election slogan ‘ Starmer Out’? Oh silly me, it was to prove how much power he has in UK politics, a claim that Labour MP’s are now reinforcing….

Cossy

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

He wears it, with his cap, to The Frinton Cricket Club, where no doubt he’ll make an appearance during Cricket Week in early August.

…and this matters how?

MartavTaurus

OK, just to show a serious side, and by the way, I'm not the one who started the potato/kipper comments, though I'll take some flak!

I didn't hate Starmer from the get-go. I was prepared to give him a fair chance. He caused me to be over £10k a year out of pocket with the 20% VAT on on school fees for my DDC in one family, but hey ho, that's my choice and there's far more important things to worry about. I've never complained on here since.

However, since schools were mentioned, my point would be, where had this windfall from school fees been spent? Certainly not on education, my other DGD at state secondary has had modern languages removed from GCSE, no money available, and my DGS at Junior School has pretty much had sport removed from the curriculum because the school can't afford a PE specialist. The changes have all been downhill in our experience.

So, Starmer on the other hand, might have a point about change happening too slowly, but I'm not holding my breath for hundreds of new teachers to come onto the scene despite all the financial incentives on offer.

I want better education for all. But we'll have to wait and see what materislises while the current pupils suffer the cutbacks

I agree with you here, one of our DD is a primary school teacher in a deprived area. Due to issues with RAAC she had a class of 44 little ones for a year. The DoE didn’t release the required funds for temporary buildings.

Casdon

We can agree to differ Oreo. We are perilously close to a world war, and we are vulnerable, completely unprepared as a country. I’d rather our government concentrated on securing our future, and keeping us all safe, fed and healthy.

We can and should agree to differ.
Personally speaking, from all I have read I think Putin has had enough and simply wants something he can call a win, he’s rather like Trump in that respect.
It has highlighted to us all how militarily unprepared we are, you are right.
Money has to go into defence from here on in, that must happen.
As MaizieD writes, we have had many unelected PM’s , it’s hardly the end of the world.

AGAA4

eazybee bringing Starmer's family into this is really not on!

In fact it’s pretty disgusting and “hear say” and malicious gossip, unless you’re a family friend?

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

He wears it, with his cap, to The Frinton Cricket Club, where no doubt he’ll make an appearance during Cricket Week in early August.

Sorry for my typos, I'm in the car. (Not driving of course!)

OK, just to show a serious side, and by the way, I'm not the one who started the potato/kipper comments, though I'll take some flak!

I didn't hate Starmer from the get-go. I was prepared to give him a fair chance. He caused me to be over £10k a year out of pocket with the 20% VAT on on school fees for my DDC in one family, but hey ho, that's my choice and there's far more important things to worry about. I've never complained on here since.

However, since schools were mentioned, my point would be, where had this windfall from school fees been spent? Certainly not on education, my other DGD at state secondary has had modern languages removed from GCSE, no money available, and my DGS at Junior School has pretty much had sport removed from the curriculum because the school can't afford a PE specialist. The changes have all been downhill in our experience.

So, Starmer on the other hand, might have a point about change happening too slowly, but I'm not holding my breath for hundreds of new teachers to come onto the scene despite all the financial incentives on offer.

I want better education for all. But we'll have to wait and see what materislises while the current pupils suffer the cutbacks

Perhaps Lord Alli will instal them in a luxury flat as he did two years ago

I'm so glad I don't know you in RL.

Vile. This is bringing out the absolute worst in people.

GrannyGravy13

The breathalyser was introduced into the U.K. October 8th 1967 to coincide with The Road Safety Act.

This is when the blood alcohol limit was introduced.

Few coppers were members of our golf club. I seem to remember one, or two of them drinking & driving.
They weren’t as hot on drink driving back in the day.

eazybee bringing Starmer's family into this is really not on!

Excellent comments eazybee👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

We can agree to differ Oreo. We are perilously close to a world war, and we are vulnerable, completely unprepared as a country. I’d rather our government concentrated on securing our future, and keeping us all safe, fed and healthy.

I agree with Casdon.

Actually I very much doubt that Farage really wants Starmer to go as he wants an unpopular PM in place at the next GE.

When I went to bed 70 MPs had voted against Starmer; when I woke up 79 votes I confidently expected an announcement of his resignation. Apparently he is defiant and refusing to go, claiming "he is/will not plunge our country into chaos; the Labour government would never be forgiven". Note: the Labour Government, not Keir Starmer" which sums him up Nothing is ever his fault.
The government IS in chaos and it is not 'driven by relentless political media, all the rubbish the media whips up; the Right Wing media including the BBC, not happy until Farage is in No.10; the media engineering his downfall...absolutely.'

Starmer had no plan in place when he became PM; 16 U-turns, disastrous decisions: welfare increase, lack of defence spending, little growth, Mandelson, increase in crime, small boats, and uncontrolled immigration.
Personally, his vicious sacking of people who offend him: the whip removed from people who don't vote 'as their masters tell them to, people removed from jobs but given peerages to replace hereditary peers; his intention, not discussed ,to form closer links with the EU, and finally, his dependence on Richard Hermer unelected Attorney General, a barrister with a penchant for defending people who could be classed as enemies of Britain.
The markets are in freefall and Starmer is waiting for support from his dismal cabinet.
AS for the charming comment: 'proof that being older doesn't make us wiser'; actually, it does because so many of us have seen it and experienced it. A Labour stalwart of 40 years has just said he has never heard such toxic, vitriolic comments on the doorstep about Labour leaders as he heard about Starmer. Trying to interfere with local elections really blew up in his face.
As for the relationship between the Starmers I too am curious; she refuses to take any part in Labour canvassing but appears only at formal occasions. The people I really am sorry for are their two children, facing A and GCSE levels this week from a household in chaos. Perhaps Lord Alli will instal them in a luxury flat as he did two years ago.
And I am not a Reform supporter.

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

Like all those who drive round in huge 4x4 just to get their prodigy to school.

Casdon

For me, your last sentence epitomises what is wrong with the way much of the public view the actions of politicians Oreo. Securing the future of the UK by becoming more self sustaining and working with our only true allies is the most important thing, but we have become so complacent that we think that our short term needs and wants, which no party can ever hope to meet, are more important than that.

I disagree, it’s what a London lawyer thinks that’s what people need.
If he genuinely believed we needed to nationalise an ailing industry he could have done it well over a year ago.
We are part of Europe but not in the EU, which doesn’t matter if it comes to a war situation in the future, it’s being part of Europe and the West that matters.
You don’t lose the confidence of a good number of your own MP’s and some Cabinet members telling you that you have to go for no good reason.

Good delivery but no content demonstrating capacity for radical change. But I doubt the Labour Party has the ideas and will for that.

westendgirl

It seems as if some of the posters are reading a script, one which they've been rehearsing since Starmer stepped into his role and which the media has been churning out.
I am very angry that these new M.Ps have no thought what is best for the country, but are focused on 2029 and their seat.
Stephen Kinnock had some wise words on Radio 4 this morning advising caution.The leader changes in the Tory party did them no good and did the country no good either.
I'm also concerned that there seems to be a group here who find it all highly amusing. Farage will be pleased to see how easy it is being made for him.

Well said and I couldn’t agree more.

I like Kinnock and consider him PM material one day.

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.