I never thought I would see it, even The Observer, (and therefore, presumably, the Guardian) have given up on Starmer

We did not blindly follow Trump into his illegal war.
Badenoch and Farage would have.
Kudos to Starmer for that. 👏

Starmer is not a safe pair of hands; he flip-flops, changes and has little political foresight. I have read a similar article which said he has no political antennae, makes statements and expected things to happen and did little preparation. He relies on his underlings to get things done, with recent disastrous consequences.

I think it's time Starmer went but I also think he's in his own little bubble and does not realise how he is viewed by a high number of the general public. This was obvious when he made the comments in the house about people thinking it was incredulous that the PM didn't know about the advanced security vetting. MP's burst into loud laughter and he looked stunned and even hurt that he was being laughed at and/or disbelieved.
The problem is who would take over and who would even want his job right now?

Yes, PM's are always criticised - and long may that be so, it is a sign of a healthy democracy The problem is what they are being criticised for. Starmer has flipflopped on so many policies. and never gives the impression of having any authority, in his party or in Parliament. He gives the impression of a man at the mercy of circumstances when he should be in command of them.

I read an interesting article last week, I cannot remember where, but it was by a political correspondent with many years of experience in and around Parliament.

He commented that most potential Prime Ministers do an enormous amount of home work in the year/months leading up to an election to make sure that they are up and running on every aspect of taking power, not just roughing out who their shadow ministers will be but doing intensive work on all the problems in every ministry, testing every policy.

This commentator said that Starmer was the first leader he had come across who, despite being 99% sure of being the next Prime minister, had done no homework at all. This is why we had policies being announced and then withdrawn and changed. No one had thought them out, road tested them and looked for all the unintended conseuences.

Luckygirl3

We have had it with pazzaz ... shallow thinking and a disregard for parliament and the rule of law.

Give me Starmer any day.

I just mean in terms of communicating the positive things, the comms need to make an impact.

I agree, I think Starmer is a very safe pair of hands, but the media constantly showing him in a negative way doesn’t help him or our country

Nice to find someone to agree with. I like Starmer and hope he continues as leader

eazybee

I fail to understand how anyone can support Starmer having once learned that he, in conjunction with Richard Hermer, worked pro bono for Phil Shiner. in the false prosecution of soldiers who had served in the Iraqui war. Starmer was involved once, Hermer for several years, but Starmer as Prime Minister, set about repealing the Legacy Act, opening the way for further prosecutions of serving soldiers. This has apparently now been shelved following strong representations from the Military until the next Parliament, not sure when.

The fiasco of Starmer's intention to promote Mandelson is outstripped by his 'ennoblement' of Hermer to create him Attorney General, without any previous parliamentary experience, unable to speak, or be questioned, in the Commons yet wield an immense influence over Labour policy. Mandelson is not in post; Hermer is.
I became aware of this some time ago when researching the previous career of Starmer, then Hermer, not via the media who are accused of making things up.
Perhaps the intention of the poster is simply to provoke an interesting debate.

I am with you regarding Hermer, Starmer and Shiner. Absolutely disgusting behaviour with seemingly no remorse for the people they inflicted the damage on. However, I think we should be very careful about big change right now with the world in the state it is. I also wonder what hell we would be heading for with some of the candidates who would likely take his place. I think for the moment, pragmatism is the way forward.

2TK is a rapper!

Casdon

Alas, I do not have the slightest idea as to what you refer!
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With a mysterious and secret other persona!!
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henetha

We seem to be a country that automatically hates our Prime Ministers. No matter what they do, they are always criticised
mightily. It must be somewhat demoralising.
But in Starmer I see a steadiness which we surely need now.
Who on earth is good enough to replace him anyway?
Let's give him a break and let him carry on, for a while at least.

It’s the only reason keeping him in power, that the Labour Party can’t agree on who to replace him with.

I didn’t think Labour and the rap/hip hop artist are particularly well acquainted Barbadosbelle, but do tell us what you know, I’m intrigued?

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Get your head out from under that stone and acquaint yourself with the facts about Labour and 2TK.
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Luckygirl3

I have no problem with Starmer. He is not perfect - which politician is? - but he is the right person for the job at this moment and I hope the media do not hound him out. We will all live to regret that if they do.

Completely agree

I'm amazed that so many of you still think Starmer is doing a good job. Are you honestly happy with what he's done to our country......what he has done to farmers, the countryside, businesses. He's a globalist. He wants us to lose our identity and become part of a world wide society. Hence, he and Rachel are thinking up new ways to rob us and give our money to poorer countries.
His party has shown some concern for animal welfare, which is more than can be said for Nigel Farage. I know that most on here want us to re-join the EU and that is one of his aims.
Otherwise, Starmer is a dead loss.

Thank goodness for Starmer. A calm sensible representative of our country on the world stage. He is willing to take a lead in European and NATO affairs and has been very clear on our position with the US/Trump.

No PM is ever seen as competent at home by the electorate! At least he is honest, thoughtful, willing to listen and update his views ( no, this is not flip-flopping, it’s listening and moving with the times), and working with the cabinet in a democratic manner. Absolutely no good reason to change right now.

The MSM have to ‘sell’ for survival so their ‘stories’ are often exactly designed to promote extreme opinions, whether press, TV or internet.

RSALLAN2002

If the Peter Principle is right, every PM there has been was out of their depth.

Certainly the last 8 or 9.

I never liked or supported Mrs Thatccher and I abhorred her politics, but I recognise uality even in those I am totally opposed to. She would have taken Trump out at the knees.

I am appalled at what is coming out not just about Starmer’s past activities working with Shiner, but also at what is emerging from his time as DPP and decisions about the grooming gangs. Both of these far worse IMHO than the mistake of appointing Mandelson.

He has been vilified and hounded since day 1 ! Give the bloke a break as he hit the ground running when he got elected!
Just think where we could have been if Badenoch or Farage were in power

We have had it with pazzaz ... shallow thinking and a disregard for parliament and the rule of law.

Give me Starmer any day.

Luckygirl3, agree, would be a shame of Starmer was hounded out just because there's a story in being negative about him. He's not perfect but is going in the right direction and I can't think of anyone who could do better under the constant harrying he's getting.

If the Peter Principle is right, every PM there has been was out of their depth.

MartavTaurus

pazazz 🤔
That sounds a bit show business like! All the glamour and glitz, without much substance.

Sometimes, you need very good comms people that can engage well with the public and can be very forward informing us of things currently being achieved!

pazazz 🤔
That sounds a bit show business like! All the glamour and glitz, without much substance.

Well, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, what the entire Labour Party needs is an injection of great internal and external communications. There needs to be a little bit of “pazaz” about where things are going well and what they’ve achieved since 2024 under Starmer’s leadership!