I never thought I would see it, even The Observer, (and therefore, presumably, the Guardian) have given up on Starmer

Clickbait sells.
Someone slowly making improvements, not so much.

We seem to be a country that automatically hates our Prime Ministers. No matter what they do, they are always criticised
mightily. It must be somewhat demoralising.
But in Starmer I see a steadiness which we surely need now.
Who on earth is good enough to replace him anyway?
Let's give him a break and let him carry on, for a while at least.

Primrose53

*eazybee*. The few who still support Starmer have blind faith.

When most of his own MPs don’t even support him that should tell them something. Then there are all the newspapers, TV channels, the general public, social media, polls etc etc all of whom want rid of him.

Most of his MPs do still support him, or he would not still be there Primrose53.

I don’t know why people don’t understand that it will be the MPs and the party which determine his future, not the relentless criticism from his critics. It’s actually really simple.

MartavTaurus

Is it Starmer, the person, that everybody dislikes, or is it what he is doing to the country? I find him somewhat arrogant, and cloth-eared, but I don't believe he is as detrimental as Liz Truss was.

If he is disliked so much, then what can be done to change things? Not a lot for the moment, but I think he will have lost a large percentage of votes at the upcoming elections, and the general election will be a disaster for the Labour party.

The media don't paint him in an appealing light, for sure, but they are not entirely responsible for the feelings of despondency everywhere. That's down to the PM himself who appears to have little vision.

I read the Editor of 🐢 came across from The Times, which is pretty reliable imo.. I guess in that respect, its views will go either way so I wouldn't underestimate what it says in its analysis of KS.

So, media aside, what is “Starmer doing to the country”?

henetha

We seem to be a country that automatically hates our Prime Ministers. No matter what they do, they are always criticised
mightily. It must be somewhat demoralising.
But in Starmer I see a steadiness which we surely need now.
Who on earth is good enough to replace him anyway?
Let's give him a break and let him carry on, for a while at least.

I agree, whether you like, respect or loathe him, I seriously don’t think now is the time for a leadership contest.

Well, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, what the entire Labour Party needs is an injection of great internal and external communications. There needs to be a little bit of “pazaz” about where things are going well and what they’ve achieved since 2024 under Starmer’s leadership!

pazazz 🤔
That sounds a bit show business like! All the glamour and glitz, without much substance.

MartavTaurus

pazazz 🤔
That sounds a bit show business like! All the glamour and glitz, without much substance.

Sometimes, you need very good comms people that can engage well with the public and can be very forward informing us of things currently being achieved!

If the Peter Principle is right, every PM there has been was out of their depth.

Luckygirl3, agree, would be a shame of Starmer was hounded out just because there's a story in being negative about him. He's not perfect but is going in the right direction and I can't think of anyone who could do better under the constant harrying he's getting.

We have had it with pazzaz ... shallow thinking and a disregard for parliament and the rule of law.

Give me Starmer any day.

He has been vilified and hounded since day 1 ! Give the bloke a break as he hit the ground running when he got elected!
Just think where we could have been if Badenoch or Farage were in power

I am appalled at what is coming out not just about Starmer’s past activities working with Shiner, but also at what is emerging from his time as DPP and decisions about the grooming gangs. Both of these far worse IMHO than the mistake of appointing Mandelson.

RSALLAN2002

If the Peter Principle is right, every PM there has been was out of their depth.

Certainly the last 8 or 9.

I never liked or supported Mrs Thatccher and I abhorred her politics, but I recognise uality even in those I am totally opposed to. She would have taken Trump out at the knees.

Thank goodness for Starmer. A calm sensible representative of our country on the world stage. He is willing to take a lead in European and NATO affairs and has been very clear on our position with the US/Trump.

No PM is ever seen as competent at home by the electorate! At least he is honest, thoughtful, willing to listen and update his views ( no, this is not flip-flopping, it’s listening and moving with the times), and working with the cabinet in a democratic manner. Absolutely no good reason to change right now.

The MSM have to ‘sell’ for survival so their ‘stories’ are often exactly designed to promote extreme opinions, whether press, TV or internet.

I'm amazed that so many of you still think Starmer is doing a good job. Are you honestly happy with what he's done to our country......what he has done to farmers, the countryside, businesses. He's a globalist. He wants us to lose our identity and become part of a world wide society. Hence, he and Rachel are thinking up new ways to rob us and give our money to poorer countries.
His party has shown some concern for animal welfare, which is more than can be said for Nigel Farage. I know that most on here want us to re-join the EU and that is one of his aims.
Otherwise, Starmer is a dead loss.

Luckygirl3

I have no problem with Starmer. He is not perfect - which politician is? - but he is the right person for the job at this moment and I hope the media do not hound him out. We will all live to regret that if they do.

Completely agree

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Get your head out from under that stone and acquaint yourself with the facts about Labour and 2TK.
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I didn’t think Labour and the rap/hip hop artist are particularly well acquainted Barbadosbelle, but do tell us what you know, I’m intrigued?

henetha

We seem to be a country that automatically hates our Prime Ministers. No matter what they do, they are always criticised
mightily. It must be somewhat demoralising.
But in Starmer I see a steadiness which we surely need now.
Who on earth is good enough to replace him anyway?
Let's give him a break and let him carry on, for a while at least.

It’s the only reason keeping him in power, that the Labour Party can’t agree on who to replace him with.

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With a mysterious and secret other persona!!
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Casdon

Alas, I do not have the slightest idea as to what you refer!
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2TK is a rapper!

eazybee

I fail to understand how anyone can support Starmer having once learned that he, in conjunction with Richard Hermer, worked pro bono for Phil Shiner. in the false prosecution of soldiers who had served in the Iraqui war. Starmer was involved once, Hermer for several years, but Starmer as Prime Minister, set about repealing the Legacy Act, opening the way for further prosecutions of serving soldiers. This has apparently now been shelved following strong representations from the Military until the next Parliament, not sure when.

The fiasco of Starmer's intention to promote Mandelson is outstripped by his 'ennoblement' of Hermer to create him Attorney General, without any previous parliamentary experience, unable to speak, or be questioned, in the Commons yet wield an immense influence over Labour policy. Mandelson is not in post; Hermer is.
I became aware of this some time ago when researching the previous career of Starmer, then Hermer, not via the media who are accused of making things up.
Perhaps the intention of the poster is simply to provoke an interesting debate.

I am with you regarding Hermer, Starmer and Shiner. Absolutely disgusting behaviour with seemingly no remorse for the people they inflicted the damage on. However, I think we should be very careful about big change right now with the world in the state it is. I also wonder what hell we would be heading for with some of the candidates who would likely take his place. I think for the moment, pragmatism is the way forward.

Nice to find someone to agree with. I like Starmer and hope he continues as leader