When is a royal tour, not a royal tour?

Allira 10.50: "Most comments on here are not trolling, they are considered comments. If someone wants to constantly live in the limelight, troll or gaslight members of their family, one of whom happens to be our Head of State, and also their staff and then surely they should expect some considered criticism in return?

JKR is standing up for the rights of women and some of the trolls who make such vile threats against her should be found, charged and sentenced to imprisonment"

No one has said this post thread is "trolling". No one has said either the royal family or H and M can not be criticised- both are open to scrutiny and comment. In my view some of the comments on this thread are not carefully considered.

My view is that M is trolled more than any other woman in the world and is disproportionate. I have not defended any threats against JKR. Threatening placards at marches are not acceptable. Neither are repeated, actual credible threats on someone's life.

Perhaps Rosie51 or yourself might be interested in finding out more about how M was targeted and received death threats. Just look up the previous Metropolitan Police assistant Commissioner's comments on line as he left his post, Neil Bass.

He said whilst he was in office M faced "disgusting and very real " threats to her life" and were specifically targeted. He said the threats were "disgusting and very real" and "there were MANY serious, credible threats" on her life. "People were arrested and prosecuted"

Rosie51

LemonJam

Rosie51 18.52: "Are you completely unaware of the horrendous rape and death threats J K Rowling gets from TRAs? Have you not seen the signs at marches and demonstrations with threats to her? I don't agree with trolling anyone, but I've never seen anyone photographed with a placard calling for Meghan's death"

No I am not unaware. JK R is one of the most heavily trolled public figures on social media due to her vocal views on gender identity and transgender rights. While she has experienced significant trolling other figures are cited as receiving extreme, higher levels of on line and media vitriol.

Elon Musk due to his ownership of X and political stances and Meghan, , and I do agree more than any other woman in the world, frequently subjected to intense , sustained on line and media harassment and trolling in the UK and international spheres.

Are you able to link to sources? Do you have evidence of death or rape threats to Meghan? Criticism of Meghan isn't in the same category as death and rape threats. Ever seen an X post that called for Meghan to be raped by a barb wire wrapped baseball bat? Ever seen a post that wanted Meghan to die in a 'grease fire'? You almost seem to think the abuse of J K Rowling is somehow excusable if not justified.
I think you'd find if you researched that J K Rowling doesn't post about transgender rights, only about women's (the sex class that is female) rights to dignity, privacy and fair competition. She respects transgender rights to live their lives as they wish but expects that women's rights and protections, especially to single sex spaces should also be respected and protected. Do you have a problem with any of that?

Well said, Rosie51.

Most comments on here are not trolling, they are considered comments. If someone wants to constantly live in the limelight, troll or gaslight members of their family, one of whom happens to be our Head of State, and also their staff and then surely they should expect some considered criticism in return?

JKR is standing up for the rights of women and some of the trolls who make such vile threats against her should be found, charged and sentenced to imprisonment.

LemonJam

Nanna8: "Well they’ve gone now, back to the land of Trump and gory. Short stay, no one much cared what they did or said".

Clearly many people have either cared- reported and/or commented- just look at the length of this post 😂

Yes, but we're not in Australia!
(More's the pity, wish I was there 😥)

Nanna8: "Well they’ve gone now, back to the land of Trump and gory. Short stay, no one much cared what they did or said".

Clearly many people have either cared- reported and/or commented- just look at the length of this post 😂

Rosie55- Meghan is the most trolled woman in the world - JKR a significant amount but not so much or so often.

I don't think so although, due to their delusional tendencies they will say it was.
They will have made money by flogging her clothes, but I don't think they will have gained respect except from some fans who sound a bit unhinged....

And yet this Thread has reached 11 pages?
While so much else is happening world wide.
Could that be considered a 'success' for them?

Well they’ve gone now, back to the land of Trump and gory. Short stay, no one much cared what they did or said.

And of course she (KJR) objects to the use of 'menstruators' etc to describe women by those that would deny women their own descriptors because 'special men' feel challenged by normal sex based language. I am ever grateful that she appears to be 'un-cancelerable' , too many good women have been.

LemonJam

Rosie51 18.52: "Are you completely unaware of the horrendous rape and death threats J K Rowling gets from TRAs? Have you not seen the signs at marches and demonstrations with threats to her? I don't agree with trolling anyone, but I've never seen anyone photographed with a placard calling for Meghan's death"

No I am not unaware. JK R is one of the most heavily trolled public figures on social media due to her vocal views on gender identity and transgender rights. While she has experienced significant trolling other figures are cited as receiving extreme, higher levels of on line and media vitriol.

Elon Musk due to his ownership of X and political stances and Meghan, , and I do agree more than any other woman in the world, frequently subjected to intense , sustained on line and media harassment and trolling in the UK and international spheres.

Are you able to link to sources? Do you have evidence of death or rape threats to Meghan? Criticism of Meghan isn't in the same category as death and rape threats. Ever seen an X post that called for Meghan to be raped by a barb wire wrapped baseball bat? Ever seen a post that wanted Meghan to die in a 'grease fire'? You almost seem to think the abuse of J K Rowling is somehow excusable if not justified.
I think you'd find if you researched that J K Rowling doesn't post about transgender rights, only about women's (the sex class that is female) rights to dignity, privacy and fair competition. She respects transgender rights to live their lives as they wish but expects that women's rights and protections, especially to single sex spaces should also be respected and protected. Do you have a problem with any of that?

Rosie51 18.52: "Are you completely unaware of the horrendous rape and death threats J K Rowling gets from TRAs? Have you not seen the signs at marches and demonstrations with threats to her? I don't agree with trolling anyone, but I've never seen anyone photographed with a placard calling for Meghan's death"

No I am not unaware. JK R is one of the most heavily trolled public figures on social media due to her vocal views on gender identity and transgender rights. While she has experienced significant trolling other figures are cited as receiving extreme, higher levels of on line and media vitriol.

Elon Musk due to his ownership of X and political stances and Meghan, , and I do agree more than any other woman in the world, frequently subjected to intense , sustained on line and media harassment and trolling in the UK and international spheres.

Syracute

Allira

Syracute

Allira

Well, I suppose they must have some fans, even on Gransnet!
Do you read the Daily Mail, then Syracute, as you seem to know the content?

I don't.

I think the discussion points are valid ones.

Well, I read it on occasion, as how else would I know where all these strange comments on M and H come from ? You only see these sort of comments on GN when DM writes about them . They do that because they get the clicks every time . What they write are far from facts yet it gets sourced here as if it is. No other paper was writing about them . I don’t consider mean gossip a discussion.

Well, I read it on occasion
😂 why, when you profess to despise it?

To keep informed of how people THINK ( or don’t think ) that are not like me. It’s the most read newspaper in the UK !!
I read a LOT of news from different sources.
How else would I know of where this irrational hatred comes from ?

How else would I know of where this irrational hatred comes from ?

😁
I think much is valid criticism.

As most on here say they do not read the Daily Mail, perhaps they are watching impartial news reports, using their brains then making their own judgements based on actual facts.

hatred is a very strong word and you are the only one to use it. Valid criticisms do not mean irrational hatred, they are just valid criticisms.

RosiesMawagain

You’ve missed
Horse&Hound
Anglers weekly
Peoples Friend
Liverpool News Chronicle
Aberdeen Press &Journal
and I’m sure lots more.

Private Eye?

Syracute Sat 18-Apr-26 20:00:04
Oh for heavens sake ! Annie Bach…. They are their own
To decide what they choose to do with their lives and they definitely made the right choice.

Nothing to do with heaven, the late Queen gave them titles, duke and duchess, they left the family because they couldn’t use. The titles to make money for their own pockets. You applaud , I criticise

Allira

Syracute

Allira

Well, I suppose they must have some fans, even on Gransnet!
Do you read the Daily Mail, then Syracute, as you seem to know the content?

I don't.

I think the discussion points are valid ones.

Well, I read it on occasion, as how else would I know where all these strange comments on M and H come from ? You only see these sort of comments on GN when DM writes about them . They do that because they get the clicks every time . What they write are far from facts yet it gets sourced here as if it is. No other paper was writing about them . I don’t consider mean gossip a discussion.

Well, I read it on occasion
😂 why, when you profess to despise it?

To keep informed of how people THINK ( or don’t think ) that are not like me. It’s the most read newspaper in the UK !!
I read a LOT of news from different sources.
How else would I know of where this irrational hatred comes from ?

So exactly how does this work?
She needs to be seen showcasing outfits so that people will buy them??

Then she selects venues that will attract the greatest publicity - sick children, women's refuges, judging Masterchef?🤷‍♀️

This is the charitable bit of the tour?

I thought they wanted to live a private life?
Meghan is promoting clothes on this tour it seems.

You’ve missed
Horse&Hound
Anglers weekly
Peoples Friend
Liverpool News Chronicle
Aberdeen Press &Journal
and I’m sure lots more.

A very comprehensive list Allira! Obviously Syracute only reads the Daily Mail as that's where she sees all the coverage that gets repeated on GN.

No other paper was writing about them

Only
The Guardian
The Times
The Telegraph
The Mirror
The Daily Express
Town and Country Magazine
Hello
Harper's Bazaar
To name a few
Plus
BBC
ITV
ABC
CNN
9News
etc etc.

Syracute

Allira

Well, I suppose they must have some fans, even on Gransnet!
Do you read the Daily Mail, then Syracute, as you seem to know the content?

I don't.

I think the discussion points are valid ones.

Well, I read it on occasion, as how else would I know where all these strange comments on M and H come from ? You only see these sort of comments on GN when DM writes about them . They do that because they get the clicks every time . What they write are far from facts yet it gets sourced here as if it is. No other paper was writing about them . I don’t consider mean gossip a discussion.

Well, I read it on occasion
😂 why, when you profess to despise it?

I think H and M have tried to keep mostly a low profile but are they supposed to live under a rock ?
People on this thread apparently think so !

That is what they wanted. No publicity.

I think of all those people who tried to help Meghan with the new Royal rôle she was so keen to embrace.
Many were left devastated or without jobs as they were forced out, not just one isolated incident.

Smileless2012

Harry constantly bemoans his childhood and criticises his family Lemsip so when he says he wants his children to have a better childhood than the one he had, it's obvious that it's yet more criticism.

If there's any biased perception it's predicated on Harry's behaviour.

I have not commented on this, you have the wrong person

Oh for heavens sake ! Annie Bach…. They are their own
To decide what they choose to do with their lives and they definitely made the right choice.