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When is a royal tour, not a royal tour?

(310 Posts)
MartavTaurus Tue 14-Apr-26 17:39:06

Silly me! It's when you visit a children's hospital and wave at the crowds. As well as visiting a homeless refuge and a War Memorial. Not forgetting attending an Invictus event and the last post ceremony on Anzac Day.
Plus the inevitable money making events which are now allowed.
Harry and Meghan's visit to Australia, (in very high shoes and expensive outfits).
Forgive my confusion. Am I missing the point? 😆

Cardamom Wed 15-Apr-26 14:16:33

Pedantry: Pedantry is the excessive, often annoying, attention to minor details, formal rules, or displaying academic learning, typically used in a disapproving way. It is characterized by trivial, hairsplitting, or "well, actually" corrections that focus on rigid accuracy over understanding or common sense

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 15-Apr-26 14:13:50

It If

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 15-Apr-26 14:12:45

The first time the word "performative" was used it was part of my post:"

"By listing these activities in a slightly dismissive way, the question reframes them as trivial or performative but in reality, they’re central to what these tours are meant to achieve: visibility for causes, soft diplomacy, and public engagement."

It that wasn't what the OP intended it shouldn't be impossible for them to explain what the did intend.

RosiesMawagain Wed 15-Apr-26 13:53:55

OK
There are fashions in language usage, in idioms and vocabulary. I suspect social media of a not inconsiderable role in their spread.
There are also myriad synonyms for "performative" so its no skin off my nose if I choose not to use the term however popular it may have become.
Performative describes actions, speech, or behavior done for show to impress others or bolster an image, often implying insincerity. It refers to actions that create a social reality (e.g., "I promise") rather than just describing one. Common usage includes "performative activism," "performative allyship," or theatrical behaviour, typically used in a disapproving way
I wonder what the next "word of the year" will be?

Ktsmum Wed 15-Apr-26 13:47:08

Just said exactly the same to Dh, why is this being given airtime on national news ? 🤷‍♀️

Cardamom Wed 15-Apr-26 13:38:00

A bitchfest is when complete strangers make nasty, personal comments about people they do not and are highly unlikely to ever know.

I've never met, and it's unlikely that I ever will meet Donald Trump, Nigel Farage, Katie Price or Katie Hopkins, plus a whole host of other famous people who's actions and behaviours are questionable and who are generally considered to be strangers to the truth. As long as they keep displaying those behaviours in the public domain, and it's widely reported in international press, I will continue to express my opinion on it. Perhaps it's worth considering that nasty behaviours attract nasty comments. If you behave decently, honestly and tell the truth, I think you'll find that people respond positively to that. Harry and Megan still haven't learnt this.

Nanny27 Wed 15-Apr-26 13:37:27

Why do they call it a 'tour'?
When i go away for a few days it's called a holiday

vegansrock Wed 15-Apr-26 13:23:37

Not much restrained discussion here- plenty of bitchy comments.

Basgetti Wed 15-Apr-26 13:11:09

Smileless2012

Diana didn't meet James Hewitt until 2 years after Harry was born.

Don’t let facts get in the way …… 😁

silverlining48 Wed 15-Apr-26 13:04:44

Well I hadn’t heard about their travels until I read this thread just now, yet I watch and listen to the news every day.

Wyllow3 Wed 15-Apr-26 13:02:05

eazybee

Why so much coverage?
On the front of the newspapers with additional articles inside, and certainly on all the major television channels.
I thought the Australians were not interested in the monarchy, and although H likes to remind us all, frequently, he is a Prince of the Royal Blood, M is most definitely not royal in any sense of the word.
And what charity work?

Well I agree - it's only cos the media makes such a fuss we even know.

Smileless2012 Wed 15-Apr-26 13:00:14

Ensuring that there would be so much in the press Avalon.

25Avalon Wed 15-Apr-26 12:57:16

They’ve taken a reporter and a photographer with them to Australia. That’s why there is so much in the press.

Smileless2012 Wed 15-Apr-26 12:55:55

Diana didn't meet James Hewitt until 2 years after Harry was born.

Sarnia Wed 15-Apr-26 12:52:32

Allira

Basgetti

eazybee

You forgot, in your diatribe, to mention mummy's promiscuous behaviour leading to doubts about Harry's parentage.

He’s the image of Prince Charles.

He is, isn't he!
With the Spencer family's red hair.

Have you seen any photos of James Hewitt? Who knows?

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 15-Apr-26 12:49:35

Allira

I must remember to use both those words in my daily vocabulary.

Performative has only appeared recently on Gransnet, however, and was remarked upon at the time.
It used to be known as showing off!

So now, the way anyone's normally writes, using everyday vocabulary, is "showing off". Surely calling someone names because they don’t adapt, whether it’s vocabulary, accent, or anything else, is simply poor behaviour, not a valid expectation.

MartavTaurus Wed 15-Apr-26 12:38:29

Basgetti

eazybee

Harry is the image of Prince Charles?
Really?

Yes. Obviously.

A bitchfest is when complete strangers make nasty, personal comments about people they do not and are highly unlikely to ever know.

Well, there wasn't one personal, offensive,
or bitchy remark in the OP. Even the high-heeled shoe observation wasn't being nasty. I actually admire anyone who can walk in them!
As others have said, a question was put forward.

nanna8 Wed 15-Apr-26 12:37:01

Not used here but then we are always 10 years behind and not so fancy schmancy.

Basgetti Wed 15-Apr-26 12:29:36

eazybee

Harry is the image of Prince Charles?
Really?

Yes. Obviously.

A bitchfest is when complete strangers make nasty, personal comments about people they do not and are highly unlikely to ever know.

Cardamom Wed 15-Apr-26 12:28:40

Harry is the image of Prince Charles

Only to a blind man on a galloping horse! grin

eazybee Wed 15-Apr-26 12:27:14

Harry is the image of Prince Charles?
Really?

Cardamom Wed 15-Apr-26 12:27:13

Oh we haven't had a Meghan bitchfest for ages…. Lets all pile on…

Can anyone explain what the difference is between a "bitchfest" and a discussion/conversation about a public figure who's currently in national news?

Allira Wed 15-Apr-26 12:25:09

Well, he was Prince Charles when Harry was born.

Basgetti Wed 15-Apr-26 12:18:07

King Charles, oops!

Allira Wed 15-Apr-26 12:05:51

Basgetti

eazybee

You forgot, in your diatribe, to mention mummy's promiscuous behaviour leading to doubts about Harry's parentage.

He’s the image of Prince Charles.

He is, isn't he!
With the Spencer family's red hair.