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Why is Israel bombing Lebanon?

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sixandahalf Wed 08-Apr-26 16:37:52

Trump describes it as a skirmish. Are 4 million displaced people a skirmish?

Are there terrorists imbedded in every street, in every home?

It's utterly wrong.

Cossy Wed 08-Apr-26 20:04:43

Whatever your view, whatever the actual truth is, the only thing I see ahead of us now is more death, more destruction, more economic instability, more displaced people.

Frankly, at times, the human race disgusts me, it just doesn’t matter anymore who does what, who started what, what matters is who can finish it.

In the meantime, never mind about the mid-terms, the Epstein files, any poor Jewish hostages who might have somehow miraculously still be alive, Palestinians with nothing, being starved in their own country, Ukrainians still being bombed, not to mention people’s sons and daughters in all and any armed forces, whoever they are, whatever their nationality or colour, putting their lives on the line every day, for what? Liars and crooks and madmen who seemingly don’t give a fig about their own citizens let alone those in other countries.

I’ve seen and read utterly appalling acts and language from world leaders, whose greed and corruption is shocking beyond belief!

sixandahalf Wed 08-Apr-26 20:13:47

I'm going to bed, I can't take any more of it.

There is absolutely no justification for what Israel is doing.

Terrotists? Don't make me laugh.

lixy Wed 08-Apr-26 20:17:01

Paddy Anne ‘ As for Trump he thinks he’s John Wayne in every old war film in the past …sadly he thinks because he’s American he can do as he pleases….seems he can..nobody has the guts to stand up against him’

Actually the Iranians are doing just that. He expected them to just give up.

Sir Kier Starmer and Emmanuel Macron are among the European leaders who are using diplomatic channels to stand up to him too.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 08-Apr-26 20:29:35

Cossy

Whatever your view, whatever the actual truth is, the only thing I see ahead of us now is more death, more destruction, more economic instability, more displaced people.

Frankly, at times, the human race disgusts me, it just doesn’t matter anymore who does what, who started what, what matters is who can finish it.

In the meantime, never mind about the mid-terms, the Epstein files, any poor Jewish hostages who might have somehow miraculously still be alive, Palestinians with nothing, being starved in their own country, Ukrainians still being bombed, not to mention people’s sons and daughters in all and any armed forces, whoever they are, whatever their nationality or colour, putting their lives on the line every day, for what? Liars and crooks and madmen who seemingly don’t give a fig about their own citizens let alone those in other countries.

I’ve seen and read utterly appalling acts and language from world leaders, whose greed and corruption is shocking beyond belief!

No wonder people are so despondent.

A good post in a very sad and uncomfortable sort of way.

Cossy Wed 08-Apr-26 20:30:17

Indeed. Be grateful that the man some of you so carelessly and critically call weak, flip-flop, rabbit caught in the headlights, has managed to handle himself with calmness, dignity and respect and not rushed us into a pointless and illegal war.

I utterly dread to think where we be if we had Johnson, Truss, Farage, Blair or any other PM guiding and leading us through this mess.

Starmer is not perfect, no one is, but I applaud his actions with Trump, Iran and Israel.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Apr-26 21:17:49

And maybe people might understand now why he has devoted a lot of time to building good relationships with other world leaders.

Magenta8 Wed 08-Apr-26 21:26:46

Israel is bombing Lebanon because Netanyahoo is a ruthless, blood thirsty maniac bent on genocide. He is as bad, if not worse than Trump. They are a pair of brainless warmongers.

Granatlast007 Wed 08-Apr-26 21:30:26

Very much agree about Starmer, he has a dignified, calm stance that is so needed.
As for the rest, it's desperate, the above three posts say it all. How much longer do we have to put up with Trump and what will his legacy and successors have to offer. I can't believe the state of the world. I don't know how much it is true that the Iranians are building nuclear weapons, in some ways, who could blame them, they are not a pleasant regime but then neither is the USA at the moment. Sigh

Allira Wed 08-Apr-26 21:47:43

sixandahalf

But the hot bed contains civilians. And the bombig will create another generation of terrorists.

The hotbed on the border meant missiles were fired into Israel for years too so that towns and villages on the Israeli side of the border were left deserted and are ghost towns after residents fled.

I'm not defending what is happening now but trying to put it in perspective.

Perhaps the Lebanon/Israel conflict should not be a condition of the ceasefire in the Iran war.

And the bombig will create another generation of terrorists.
Yes. All of this will perpetuate the conflicts in the Middle East.

Allira Wed 08-Apr-26 21:51:37

valdavi

Oreo

OP…. Because Lebanon is a hotbed of terrorism, Hezbollah tell the weak Lebanese government what to do, and they constantly fire missiles into Israel and have done for many years.

Hezbollah represent a significant minority in Lebanon, and they have some influence but they certainly do not 'Tell the Lebanese government what to do', any more than any minority party does in any state.

Their strength is greater than the Lebanese Army, they control many areas and are backed by Iran.

Allira Wed 08-Apr-26 21:57:21

Cossy

Whatever your view, whatever the actual truth is, the only thing I see ahead of us now is more death, more destruction, more economic instability, more displaced people.

Frankly, at times, the human race disgusts me, it just doesn’t matter anymore who does what, who started what, what matters is who can finish it.

In the meantime, never mind about the mid-terms, the Epstein files, any poor Jewish hostages who might have somehow miraculously still be alive, Palestinians with nothing, being starved in their own country, Ukrainians still being bombed, not to mention people’s sons and daughters in all and any armed forces, whoever they are, whatever their nationality or colour, putting their lives on the line every day, for what? Liars and crooks and madmen who seemingly don’t give a fig about their own citizens let alone those in other countries.

I’ve seen and read utterly appalling acts and language from world leaders, whose greed and corruption is shocking beyond belief!

Cossy
It's fills you with despair, doesn't it.

Allira Wed 08-Apr-26 21:58:11

Cossy

Indeed. Be grateful that the man some of you so carelessly and critically call weak, flip-flop, rabbit caught in the headlights, has managed to handle himself with calmness, dignity and respect and not rushed us into a pointless and illegal war.

I utterly dread to think where we be if we had Johnson, Truss, Farage, Blair or any other PM guiding and leading us through this mess.

Starmer is not perfect, no one is, but I applaud his actions with Trump, Iran and Israel.

I agree.

Basgetti Wed 08-Apr-26 23:12:25

lixy

Because Hezbollah continue to fire rockets into Northern Israel.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other, surely?

merlotgran Thu 09-Apr-26 08:46:31

sixandahalf

I'm going to bed, I can't take any more of it.

There is absolutely no justification for what Israel is doing.

Terrotists? Don't make me laugh.

Are you implying Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis et al are just cuddly bunnies who have no problem at all with the existence of Israel?

I’m not defending Netanyahu but being surrounded by enemies who want to destroy your country and its people is no laughing matter.

twaddle Thu 09-Apr-26 08:59:29

Why do people automatically think that criticising Israel means supporting Hezbollah, Hamas and Houthis? It most certainly doesn't.

It's a fact of life that Israel is situated on land which was taken from the pre WW2 owners - of course they're going to object! Nevertheless, Israel is never going to destroy all the Arab states, so it needs to make sure that it has strong defences. It has had billions pumped into defences, supported by the US. It has its iron dome and (with Mossad) reputedly one of the most effective secret services in the world. It has nuclear weapons. Bombing Lebanon and Iran will achieve nothing, although it might distract from what's happening in the West Bank and the introduction of the death penalty for Israeli Palestinians.

Smileless2012 Thu 09-Apr-26 09:07:59

Maybe if Israel hadn't committed genocide in Gaza; stolen land it has no right too and continues to do so and celebrated with such enthusiasm the introduction of the death penalty by hanging for Palestinians it's destruction wouldn't be a priority for its enemies.

sixandahalf Thu 09-Apr-26 09:11:46

merlotgran

sixandahalf

I'm going to bed, I can't take any more of it.

There is absolutely no justification for what Israel is doing.

Terrotists? Don't make me laugh.

Are you implying Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis et al are just cuddly bunnies who have no problem at all with the existence of Israel?

I’m not defending Netanyahu but being surrounded by enemies who want to destroy your country and its people is no laughing matter.

I don't support terrorists.

I don't support murdering thousands and thousands of innocent people.

This is not hunting down terrorists or defending land, it has gone way past that.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Apr-26 09:18:44

Smileless2012

Maybe if Israel hadn't committed genocide in Gaza; stolen land it has no right too and continues to do so and celebrated with such enthusiasm the introduction of the death penalty by hanging for Palestinians it's destruction wouldn't be a priority for its enemies.

Death by hanging is simply putting into law what is in effect happening anyway. Israel has been killing Palestinians with impunity for years - look at the West Bank.

Lovetopaint037 Thu 09-Apr-26 10:25:08

I agree with everything that Cossy has said about Starmer and the state of the world at the moment.
Also I agree with Smileless when she describes much of the behaviour of Israel in the past and now. Natanyahu is a corrupt gangster who doesn’t want peace.

AGAA4 Thu 09-Apr-26 11:15:49

Netanyahu and some in his government are criminals being supported by another criminal in the US.
Peace will never last long in the middle east while Israel wants more than a fair share. They were handed the lion's share in the beginning but it wasn't enough and angered the people they took the land from.

sixandahalf Thu 09-Apr-26 11:22:01

AGAA4

Netanyahu and some in his government are criminals being supported by another criminal in the US.
Peace will never last long in the middle east while Israel wants more than a fair share. They were handed the lion's share in the beginning but it wasn't enough and angered the people they took the land from.

I reckon that's about right.

Smileless2012 Thu 09-Apr-26 15:24:01

That's true WW I suppose it's their way of legalising murder.

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 09-Apr-26 17:50:34

One third of Lebanese are Christian, of course, so seem unlikely supporters of Hezbollah.

LizzieDrip Fri 10-Apr-26 10:46:26

Straightforward answer to the original question … Netanyahu is due to appear in court on Monday.

If the war ends now, he appears in court … if the fighting continues, he doesn’t.

He won’t stop killing people … to keep himself out of court😡

Samwam Fri 10-Apr-26 11:37:03

'Keir Starmer sent a MQ-9 Reaper drone over Lebanon for 13 hours yesterday (8 April)

Departing from RAF Akrotiri, it flew in circles near Baalbek. At same time, Israeli strikes killed 18 people in area

Starmer flew intel flights over Gaza for Israel. Is this part of same arrangement?' - Matt Kennard, independent journalist

I listen to independent journalists from sources such as Double Down News etc

How defensive is Starmers stance actually.
BBC and MSM is know to show blatant bias to one side in its coverage of middle east war.