News of Iran ceasefire

Whitewavemark2

Starmer flying to the Gulf. At least one steady head will be there.

I don’t think kS can do that much, tbh.

Apparently a 10 point peace plan has been proposed for negotiation. Richard Murphy has suggested that, from his reading of several reputable sources, the 10 points are these:

Start

1. Full ceasefire and end to hostilities

Immediate halt to all military action across the region
Includes linked conflicts (e.g. Lebanon front)
2. US guarantee of non-aggression

A binding commitment that the US (and allies) will not attack Iran again
3. Lifting of all US sanctions

Removal of both primary and secondary sanctions
Restoration of Iran's access to global trade and finance
4. Release of frozen Iranian assets

Return of funds held abroad, especially in Western jurisdictions
5. Acceptance of Iran's nuclear programme

Recognition of its right to enrich uranium
An end to international restrictions on enrichment
6. End of UN and IAEA restrictions

Termination of monitoring or sanctions regimes targeting Iran's nuclear activity
7. US military withdrawal from the region

Removal of US combat forces from the Middle East
8. Control over the Strait of Hormuz

Iran retains strategic control or oversight of this key shipping route
In some versions, Iran and Oman could charge transit fees, which may be linked to the next point
9. Compensation / reparations

US to pay for war damage and reconstruction costs

10. Formal international agreement

A binding UN-backed resolution guaranteeing the terms
Long-term security framework for the region

End

That looks, to me, very much like complete victory for Iran and humiliation for the US.

(Murphy points out, though, that the two points regarding nuclear development only exist in arabic versions. not in English ones.)

Trump has had to back down. The US is already viewed by other countries negatively and if he had carried out his threat to destroy a whole nation he will have condemned himself and his country.

I agree that China is in the ascendency and must be looking on at the US destroying itself.

I don’t trust Netanyahu. He is good at breaking ceasefires and giving a pretty weak reason for this that ultimately has to be taken at face value.

Whitewavemark2

Starmer flying to the Gulf. At least one steady head will be there.

Good.

I should have linked to Murphy’s blog post

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2026/04/08/has-trump-surrendered/

MaizieD

Apparently a 10 point peace plan has been proposed for negotiation. Richard Murphy has suggested that, from his reading of several reputable sources, the 10 points are these:

Start

1. Full ceasefire and end to hostilities

Immediate halt to all military action across the region
Includes linked conflicts (e.g. Lebanon front)
2. US guarantee of non-aggression

A binding commitment that the US (and allies) will not attack Iran again
3. Lifting of all US sanctions

Removal of both primary and secondary sanctions
Restoration of Iran's access to global trade and finance
4. Release of frozen Iranian assets

Return of funds held abroad, especially in Western jurisdictions
5. Acceptance of Iran's nuclear programme

Recognition of its right to enrich uranium
An end to international restrictions on enrichment
6. End of UN and IAEA restrictions

Termination of monitoring or sanctions regimes targeting Iran's nuclear activity
7. US military withdrawal from the region

Removal of US combat forces from the Middle East
8. Control over the Strait of Hormuz

Iran retains strategic control or oversight of this key shipping route
In some versions, Iran and Oman could charge transit fees, which may be linked to the next point
9. Compensation / reparations

US to pay for war damage and reconstruction costs

10. Formal international agreement

A binding UN-backed resolution guaranteeing the terms
Long-term security framework for the region

End

That looks, to me, very much like complete victory for Iran and humiliation for the US.

(Murphy points out, though, that the two points regarding nuclear development only exist in arabic versions. not in English ones.)

Complete victory for Iran was just what I thought. I’d like whoever negotiated those terms for Iran on our side! Pakistan was the mediator I think?

Humiliation for Trump, but frankly no more than he deserves. Heads will roll no doubt - let’s hope one is Hegseth.

Fallingstar

I don’t trust Netanyahu. He is good at breaking ceasefires and giving a pretty weak reason for this that ultimately has to be taken at face value.

Is Israeli involved in this ceasefire?

Israel has agreed with the US on the ceasefire.

MaizieD

Fallingstar

I don’t trust Netanyahu. He is good at breaking ceasefires and giving a pretty weak reason for this that ultimately has to be taken at face value.

Is Israeli involved in this ceasefire?

Butting in - no it isn’t.

I see it has passed a law to hang Palestinians now.

Hell is too good for some leaders.

Galaxy

I see America as an important nation in the world. The fact that it has a president who does things I don't agree with has no impact on that.

I see America as entirely populated by basket cases who imagine God is on their side, if such an entity exists.

And Mister Trump is the chief basket case at the tip of the iceberg.

But that doesn't mean he'll shoulder any responsibility for the mess he's made - that's his Secretary of War, Hesgeth's, job.

How lovey mae13

Israel will carry on fighting Hezbollah but has agreed with the ceasefire with the US in Iran I presume.
I also don't trust Netanyahu and his criminal cronies. I just hope that the US will restrict support to Israel if he breaks the ceasefire. I think there have been discussions about cutting back on support in the US.

that looks, to me, very much like a victory for Iran and complete humiliation for the US

Plus the $2 million per ship transitioning the strait.
Approximately 150 ships per day pass through.
I’ve read that Iran wants this Levi paid in euros, not dollars.

Now that Iran have control of the strait they won’t give it up.

I agree WW that the victory is Iran's. Trump's threats of the total destruction of Iran have resulted in the total humiliation of Trump.

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It's regrettable the murderous Iranian theocracy remains in place.

Smileless2012

I agree WW that the victory is Iran's. Trump's threats of the total destruction of Iran have resulted in the total humiliation of Trump.

True but he will spin it to make it look as if he is the hero who got rid of some head honchos in the regime and gave the long suffering Iranians a new shiny regime. Same regime essentially.
What a waste of innocent human lives.

Interesting to know that nanna. You are seeing how things work from your side of the world.

It is regrettable I agree Grantanow, but that was always going to be the case and over throwing an evil regime was never a reason for starting this war.

Absolutely Grantanow. Iran is one of many murderous regimes still in power throughout our world.

I wonder if governments and media will stop taking Trump seriously now?

I see the BBC are trying to spin that Trump got something out of this truce, but I can’t see it.

nanna8

China already is the most powerful nation as far as our part of the world is concerned. The USA hasn’t nearly so much influence financially. The Chinese are much more subtle about things, though. They don’t go around bragging about their power.

That’s the difference between the two nations. One has a plan and sticks to it. The other decides what it’s going to do according to if it’s raining or sunny 🤷‍♀️

Meanwhile, the elusive airman has been kicked into the long grass.

Wyllow3

Well Israel has made clear it won't change its attack on the Lebanon but has he said anything specific on not firing on Iran?

I think he’s said he’ll go along with the deal but is doesn’t include Lebanon!

Also Trump is taking complete credit for bringing peace to a region (no) and ending a war he started!

Is there no end to this man’s lunacy?

My understanding is Pakistan “brokered” the deal as Iran have now refused to deal directly with Trump since his mad outburst and frankly, (do not support the regime) who can blame them?