Is Your Party finished?

Corbyn really would have been better going in with the Greens. They would have welcomed such a well known figure and he would be able to help them with running campaigns. Instead he decided to set up a new party that was doomed from the start and bitterly divided.
Watching some of the Your Party conference, I felt sorry for the old boy as he must have been upset to see delegates tearing each other apart and various factions jockeying to take over the party. Also some were so extreme they regarded Corbyn as a right winger.

Would the Greens have welcomed Corbyn though? I think he would have had a lot to offer, but I can't think of many politians who are so derided & dissed by the media.
The media don't seem to have noticed that the Greens are left wing as well as being pro-Earth.

I wonder if Corbyn expected it to be like 2015 when he launched Your Party and thought he'd be addressing people singing Oh Jeremy Corbyn. Instead he created a party that seemed to turn on itself and had no policies beyond supporting Palestine, trans rights and hating other parties. Like all far left parties, Your Party was doomed to fail as this type of politics has little support.

Both far left and far right parties struggle to gain sufficient to support win a General Election. All new political parties struggle to get established, or whatever colour in the UK for different reasons- related to forming anything new.

However there is much dissatisfaction in main stream parties such that there has been/is a public appetite for "something different" that some parties are seeking to fill.

I'm not sure Your Party was formed specifically to support Palestine, trans rights and "hating other parties" though as you claim- do you have evidence of that? My understanding is that YP wanted to focus on policies such as public ownership of utilities, taxing the rich and a massive council house building programme. That is its main mission to transfer wealth and power from the few to the many. In essence to serve as a "full bloodied left wing challenge to the current Labour Party, targeting voters who feel unserved by the political mainstream That is main stream Labour Party not far left? YP definelty responded to an appetite that attracted membership subscriptions ( less said of that the better) from a sizeable number.

The reason YP has not been a success to date is more likely because of its failure to successfully launch, its leadership model fallout and the public animosity between Corbyn and Sultana. Not because of "hating other parties" or for supporting Palestine and trans rights.

valdavi

Would the Greens have welcomed Corbyn though? I think he would have had a lot to offer, but I can't think of many politians who are so derided & dissed by the media.
The media don't seem to have noticed that the Greens are left wing as well as being pro-Earth.

I think the Greens are extreme left wing now which is why I can’t rejoice in their popularity even though I’ve always supported much of what they stand for. I don’t like extremes of anything.

Me neither Maybee70 I just hope that Labour gets its act together with a new leader and Chancellor well before the next GE.

MayBee70

valdavi

Would the Greens have welcomed Corbyn though? I think he would have had a lot to offer, but I can't think of many politians who are so derided & dissed by the media.
The media don't seem to have noticed that the Greens are left wing as well as being pro-Earth.

I think the Greens are extreme left wing now which is why I can’t rejoice in their popularity even though I’ve always supported much of what they stand for. I don’t like extremes of anything.

They are anti nuclear, which would destroy 12,000 jobs where I live, and have weird policies like legalising all drugs. When they set out as the Ecology Party, they were a fairly harmless party that supported conservation, protecting the countryside and encouraging humane farming. Didn't get many votes, but far differentt to what the Green Party became.

Oreo

Me neither Maybee70 I just hope that Labour gets its act together with a new leader and Chancellor well before the next GE.

I’m perfectly happy with Keir Starmer.

Oreo

Me neither Maybee70 I just hope that Labour gets its act together with a new leader and Chancellor well before the next GE.

Not a big Labour supporter, but I'd sooner have a moderate Labour government than the Greens or Your Party. I think Starmer not getting involved in Iran and abolishing the child benefit cap has improved his popularity. A Labour/ Lib Dem coalition I could happily live with, or even Labour working with the SNP if they can't get a majority at the next election.
The Greens to me are dangerous and beoming more like a Corbyn style Labour Party with a different name and a crankier leader. Anyone who thinks legalising all drugs will solve the drugs problem is deluded, same as legalising sex work will end abuse of women.

Did it ever really begin? Deluded old fool.

Cumbrianmale56

The problem with Your Party was it was too divided and its conference was like something out of a student union meeting, with endless heckling, walkouts and shouting. Many of the attendees seemed to be either students ot aged far left activists with nowhere else to go. Also a very public falling out between Corbyn and Sultana wrecked the party from the start.

You've hit the nail on the head. I was very involved in student politics and ended up VP of the students union.

What I continually observed, was that very far left or right groups were always in conflict within themselves, arguing about whose ideologies were exactly correct:

I won on a "broad left alliance" ticket which was pragmatic and practical so I agree with others re Corbyn: a man who wanted and really fair and caring society - but his manifesto was a completely unrealistic shopping list promising all for everyone in need - people simply didn't "buy it". He was also at that point in alliance with the ideologues of unelected Momentum who wielded behind the scenes influence.

Just as the far right now has their ideologues that are actually very extreme - think the current US ideas. As well as gross international fundraising...but they too keep having "splits" and people sacked or leaving in huffs.

This is a grassroots party lots involved. It will take a while a ew party so not like the two main parties. Corbyn is not deluded he has been on the right side of history and proven right the war by Blair and Bush and the private finance initiative our NHS etc. The two main parties are the same no difference people want something to see change. Starmer says he is not at war with Iran just defensive but is allowing our bases to be used by USA to bomb inocent civilians in Iran so he is lying. He did say no to bases at start but when the media saying good idea to go to war Starmer changed his mind. Another U turn. I have joined YourParty.

Wyllow3

Cumbrianmale56

The problem with Your Party was it was too divided and its conference was like something out of a student union meeting, with endless heckling, walkouts and shouting. Many of the attendees seemed to be either students ot aged far left activists with nowhere else to go. Also a very public falling out between Corbyn and Sultana wrecked the party from the start.

You've hit the nail on the head. I was very involved in student politics and ended up VP of the students union.

What I continually observed, was that very far left or right groups were always in conflict within themselves, arguing about whose ideologies were exactly correct:

I won on a "broad left alliance" ticket which was pragmatic and practical so I agree with others re Corbyn: a man who wanted and really fair and caring society - but his manifesto was a completely unrealistic shopping list promising all for everyone in need - people simply didn't "buy it". He was also at that point in alliance with the ideologues of unelected Momentum who wielded behind the scenes influence.

Just as the far right now has their ideologues that are actually very extreme - think the current US ideas. As well as gross international fundraising...but they too keep having "splits" and people sacked or leaving in huffs.

Way back in time I was a student at what was Sheffield Poly. Hard left gtoups like the SWP and the Revolutionary Communist Party, an odious bunch who saw the IRA as freedom fighters, always tried to take over every meeting and committee and once pushed someone off a platform because they didn't like their opinions. Most students couldn't stand these ultra left groups and their negative, aggressive behaviour and weird political views. Also you got the impression many of them were upper middle class kids playing at being revolutionaries for a couple of years.
Anyway I decided to stand to represent my site as a site rep on a platform that was apolitical and which was more about improving facilities in one of the halls, which was like something out of the dark ages. My opponent, whom you could class as on the left, but strongly opposed to the extremist minority, fought a similar campaign, but due to better organisaiton won. Both of us wanted simply to represent people whatever their opinions and to make the student union more relevant to the vast majority of students.
It was interesting to campaign and after the result was declared, we both shook hands and went for a drink. This is how things should be.