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The King is interfering in the Democratic process in the USA

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Gfplux Wed 01-Apr-26 17:23:42

If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy. This visit will be seen as the King endorsing and approving Trumps behaviour and threats towards the UK.
I can not understand why this visit is going ahead. If it does it will shake my belief and support of the Monarchy.
What do you think?

JenniferEccles Thu 02-Apr-26 10:40:05

Lovely Dickens !
How would Trump react if Charles cancelled his visit? He would consider it a huge snub, wouldn’t he, and quite rightly so.

Obviously if Charles’ health deteriorated, then that’s a different matter.

Oreo Thu 02-Apr-26 10:31:18

To answer the OP, the King is not interfering in US democracy by his visit there, why would anyone even think that.

Oreo Thu 02-Apr-26 10:29:21

Made me smile too Dickens😁

Jaberwok Thu 02-Apr-26 09:45:48

nanna8. King Charles was not named after either Charles 1st(!) or the 11nd, but was in fact named after the late Queen 's favourite uncle, and Charles Godfather, the King of Norway. King Haakon V11th of Norway was formally Prince Carl of Denmark, he married Princess Maud of Wales, the youngest daughter of King Edward V11th, and Queen Alexandra formally of Denmark.

Anniebach Thu 02-Apr-26 09:14:27

The king isn’t one for throwing eggs at faces

mae13 Thu 02-Apr-26 09:07:38

Anniebach

Using cancer as a cop-out is so wrong, the children and grandchildren of Duke of Kent have never worked as working royals.
Refusing to visit America would make Trump important

Mister Trump is important only in his own warped mind. Maybe getting Royal egg on his face is just what he needs.

Dickens Thu 02-Apr-26 09:02:08

... this made me smile.

OldFrill Thu 02-Apr-26 08:22:54

I hope Charles' health holds out as if he takes a downward turn the assumption will be he's lying to get out of the visit, which I don't believe he'd do. Not a monarchist but l think Charles has more integrity than many on here who think lying to get out of an unsavoury event is acceptable, even for a Head of State.

mae13 Thu 02-Apr-26 03:14:15

But the USA doesn't have democracy anymore.

King Donald overules anything and anyone he doesn't like.

So the colonists fought against the UK, back in 1776, to break away from our monarchy and invent their own.

His Majesty Donald and HRH Queen Melania.

Such a gracious couple......

nanna8 Wed 01-Apr-26 23:53:52

The King is not supposed to be involved in politics since good old Charles 1, his namesake. Of course he should go and he might actually do some good calming things down.

MayBee70 Wed 01-Apr-26 20:58:23

butterandjam

TwiceAsNice

I agree he shouldn’t go. Surely they could pretend his health isn’t good enough. Trump is a maniac and I don’t know why we are pretending he isn’t . Besides all the things that went before he went into Iran with no plan for getting out. Utter madness!

Starmers announcement today about "closer ties with Europe " is the first step towards the Butterandjam prediction;;

that the royal visit will be cancelled at the last possible minute.

" So sorry, King is indisposed"

My first thought, too. Still a few weeks to go before the visit and a lot can happen in that time including Trumps announcement today that Charles would have joined him in the war if he was PM. Might not have enough plane fuel to get there if the war continues anyway.

Cossy Wed 01-Apr-26 20:36:00

Iam64

It would be wrong to use the Kings health as an excuse to postpone or cancel this long planned visit. I’m unhappy about the visit given Trunp’s extraordinarily rude comments about the uk, its PM, its armed services etc. still it’s no more than we expect from the horror in the Whitehouse.

To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds

The King has had a lifetime of avoiding politics and diplomatic endeavour
I’m sorry but I conclude the visit stands

I agree

AGAA4 Wed 01-Apr-26 20:33:12

I feel sorry for the king and queen having to be polite to Trump. Hopefully Trump will behave for once.
I'm sure Charles, given his background, will manage to deal with Trump if he makes disparaging remarks about the UK.

Greyduster Wed 01-Apr-26 20:32:00

I think the general concensus is that we would prefer His Majesty not to go, but like his mother before him, duty will always come first. He will have had exhaustive discussions with the Foreign Office and our Ambassador in Washington and will be well armed diplomatically to avoid any pitfalls. His grace, presence and gravitas will, I’m sure, put his host in the shade.

merlotgran Wed 01-Apr-26 20:29:22

To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds

Spot on, Iam
The King is the ‘better person’ in all this and he knows how to prove it.

Anniebach Wed 01-Apr-26 20:23:42

Using cancer as a cop-out is so wrong, the children and grandchildren of Duke of Kent have never worked as working royals.
Refusing to visit America would make Trump important

sixandahalf Wed 01-Apr-26 20:10:12

very poor impression Starmer has created

Please, really how would you wish him to behave?

Iam64 Wed 01-Apr-26 19:57:15

It would be wrong to use the Kings health as an excuse to postpone or cancel this long planned visit. I’m unhappy about the visit given Trunp’s extraordinarily rude comments about the uk, its PM, its armed services etc. still it’s no more than we expect from the horror in the Whitehouse.

To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds

The King has had a lifetime of avoiding politics and diplomatic endeavour
I’m sorry but I conclude the visit stands

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 01-Apr-26 19:48:17

One way out of this deplorable situation would be to say the King is unwell and send a very lowly Royal. There’s plenty of them after all - maybe one of the Kent grandchildren.

imaround Wed 01-Apr-26 19:44:19

I don't have much of an opinion on the visit, but I can 100% say the Kings visit will not interfere with Democracy on the United States. He actually does not wield that much power here. I wish he did because that would solve so many problems in the US.

I think some people in the US will see it as him legitimizing Trump, but I believe that most of us will see it for what it is, the King doing his job.

I do hope that he doesn't have to stand in a puddle in a tent because the ballroom was stopped by the judge.

(Sarcasm because Trump's argument was he needed the ballroom for the King. As of the thing would have been done in a month. hmm)

Elegran Wed 01-Apr-26 19:44:00

He is there because it is a big anniversary for the United States.
I am sure he would prefer to skip the celebrations, and the inevitable whinges by Trump, but this is nothing to do with the orange peril. To boycott this anniversary would be to make the personality of a temporary head of state more important than the justifiable pride of the nation, despite the man making such a hash of Making America Great Again.

Elegran Wed 01-Apr-26 19:32:35

Calendargirl

HM, not HRH.

You are right, Calendargirl He is "His Majesty King Charles III" not His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales.

He is no longer a prince, he is a king. He was automatically promoted on the death of his mother.

luluaugust Wed 01-Apr-26 19:31:01

Our late Queen and present King must have meet every kind of dictator, tyrant and n’er do well, I am sure he will cope. Of course we don’t know what the present President will have in mind

Fallingstar Wed 01-Apr-26 18:56:53

eazybee

What utter nonsense. The King has been invited by Trump, and does his duty to his country as best he may; doubtless his diplomatic skills and good manners will go some way to alleviate the very poor impression Starmer has created.

I don’t think it is utter nonsense at all. And I don’t think Starmer has given a poor impression. I do believe that Trump has given a very poor impression as a president of a super power by waging an illegal war and then insulting every European leader who finds his behaviour highly damaging and increasingly erratic and so want no part of the chaos he is presently creating in the ME.
I was previously no fan of Starmer but his stance with regard to Trump has elevated him substantially in my opinion, and national pollls show I am not alone.

Lovetopaint037 Wed 01-Apr-26 18:50:22

Casdon

He is going to mark 250 years of Independence, it’s been planned for a long time. He was invited by Trump, and for him not to go would be very controversial in the current circumstances. I’d rather he didn’t, and I’m sure he and the government would both rather he didn’t too, but not going would be a diplomatic disaster.

Agree with this. Poor King and poor Queen. The King will have to lay on all his diplomatic talents and as usual rise to the occasion and benefit of the Nation.