If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy. This visit will be seen as the King endorsing and approving Trumps behaviour and threats towards the UK.
I can not understand why this visit is going ahead. If it does it will shake my belief and support of the Monarchy.
What do you think?
The King does as he's asked by the Govt. of the day,he is only Head of State,no power.....He probably would rathet not go! Who wants to go and see Trump. The King will be sent to massage Trump's huge ,gigantic ego!
Newsflash - the 'democratic process' elected Trump. The King going or not will affect nothing. The American public need to make their wishes felt - for all the good that will do - for another puppet of the 'deep state' to take control.
LonnBestemor
The King should keep visiting until the average Briton knows where Canada is.
This is a very silly comment, of course Brits know where Canada is, and love and respect it. I include the King in that.
LonnBestemor
Allira
If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy.
The exact opposite would be true, if he were to refuse to go.
The King, as Head of State, is visiting a democratic, independent country, part of which were once colonies of Great Britain, to join in their Independence celebrations.
Those former colonies have expanded and are are now a constitutional federal republic with a democratically elected Head of State.
It is not up to our Head of State to pass judgement on the way the USA conducts its political affairs.Oh boy, you need to see the American situation up close. Trump was voted in by a majority of Americans, when it was a democracy. It is no longer and none of its democratic institutions are functioning. It is highly dysfunctional. It is way past time to wax eloquent about diplomacy. Trump is a madman. How is the world not seeing this? All the norms are gone. There have been huge "no-Kings" demonstrations. Why oh why would a King go there now? A visit by a respected King risks being seen as endorsing Trump. It's not about lauding the historical accomplishments of the U.S.A. now - this situation with Trump is one of those accomplishments and future citizens will be working for a very long time to accomplish half of what they've lost. No, it's not just the current administration, this is a toxic culmination of pushing American exceptionality. Not a blip. This is a flatline.
Could you translate and perhaps precis please?
A visit by a respected King risks being seen as endorsing Trump.
It might be an idea to read the thread and see why this is not the case.
Elegran
The average Briton is well aware of where Canada is - most of them are related to someone who lives there.
Quite!
And many have been there too.
OldFrill
If Charles doesn't go William would have to go. The monarchy is surely above lying their way out of attending unsavoury events.
While the visit is not intended to be political, it sends a message to the American people that we still value their friendship.
I think people tend to underestimate His Majesty. He could perhaps give Trump lessons on diplomacy and not shooting off his mouth so much. His report that Iran is proposing to settle shows us that he IS talking to opposition groups, which might be dangerous for them.
Elegran
The US of A will still be there when Trump is a paragraph on the third page of the newspaper lining the trash can. The King is visiting that America, not the one that Trump mistakenly thought he was making great again.
😂😂😂
Love it, Elegran!
Off topic, but in case anyone is keeping score, he has now fired 2 of his Cabinet.
Noem & Bondi.
He has started throwing Hegseth under the bus recently, so I suspect he is the next target of blame.
The average Briton is well aware of where Canada is - most of them are related to someone who lives there.
The US of A will still be there when Trump is a paragraph on the third page of the newspaper lining the trash can. The King is visiting that America, not the one that Trump mistakenly thought he was making great again.
Diplomacy, at a time like this is important.
Only my opinion mind.
He is not their King, they don't want Kings. Americans don't either. They want Hyacinth candlelight suppers and afternoon teas, the English penchant for selling history and land, lots of land. Oh wait, maybe they are more alike.
The King should keep visiting until the average Briton knows where Canada is.
Allira
^If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy.^
The exact opposite would be true, if he were to refuse to go.
The King, as Head of State, is visiting a democratic, independent country, part of which were once colonies of Great Britain, to join in their Independence celebrations.
Those former colonies have expanded and are are now a constitutional federal republic with a democratically elected Head of State.
It is not up to our Head of State to pass judgement on the way the USA conducts its political affairs.
Oh boy, you need to see the American situation up close. Trump was voted in by a majority of Americans, when it was a democracy. It is no longer and none of its democratic institutions are functioning. It is highly dysfunctional. It is way past time to wax eloquent about diplomacy. Trump is a madman. How is the world not seeing this? All the norms are gone. There have been huge "no-Kings" demonstrations. Why oh why would a King go there now? A visit by a respected King risks being seen as endorsing Trump. It's not about lauding the historical accomplishments of the U.S.A. now - this situation with Trump is one of those accomplishments and future citizens will be working for a very long time to accomplish half of what they've lost. No, it's not just the current administration, this is a toxic culmination of pushing American exceptionality. Not a blip. This is a flatline.
LonnBestemor
Gfplux
If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy. This visit will be seen as the King endorsing and approving Trumps behaviour and threats towards the UK.
I can not understand why this visit is going ahead. If it does it will shake my belief and support of the Monarchy.
What do you think?The King should be visiting Canada instead of taking for granted the loyalty and affection of a country now reconciled to the horrible past of colonization - a modern relationship of equals always requires building and renewal. Instead the Royals go to the USA to do what? Trump's a despot and a criminal. Will he pressure the King for a knighthood? An earldom? Oh, wait, he wants to be addressed as Sir or better yet, HRH. Trump wants royal recognition and the King compromises himself to give it to him. Send Andrew.
He visited Canada last year.
Just because Trump is insulting & makes all his decisions at a personal level, doesn't mean that the King has to be drawn into that game. He is King for a lifetime of a proud independant country.
He's accepted an invitation to the Independence celebrations and imo he is above descending to Trump's personal pettiness level & not going because Trump has insulted GB.
The King should be there, Trump will claim it as a personal hosting but most Americans & everyone in the rest of the world know different.
Gfplux
If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy. This visit will be seen as the King endorsing and approving Trumps behaviour and threats towards the UK.
I can not understand why this visit is going ahead. If it does it will shake my belief and support of the Monarchy.
What do you think?
The King should be visiting Canada instead of taking for granted the loyalty and affection of a country now reconciled to the horrible past of colonization - a modern relationship of equals always requires building and renewal. Instead the Royals go to the USA to do what? Trump's a despot and a criminal. Will he pressure the King for a knighthood? An earldom? Oh, wait, he wants to be addressed as Sir or better yet, HRH. Trump wants royal recognition and the King compromises himself to give it to him. Send Andrew.
Why doesn't Gransnet have an editing button? I meant 'and'
Boz
He should go. The King has to show he is above politics. Trump will not be there forever .
It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go.
His personal feelings do not come into it and he probably has a low opinion of Trump but duty above all is his motto.
What about how Trump has insulted the British government abd it's PM? The King mustn't go as he cant be seen sucking up to Trump.
Casdon Is correct. it’s a big anniversary and cannot to be missed. The USA is bigger than Trump..
Did you feel the same way when Trump was welcomed here by the Queen?
The OP has let their personal 'bee in the bonnet' write that? As several have said, the visit is to mark the 250th anniversary of Independence, not promote the Great Orange Baboon's personal standing (present USA polling has him at the lowest popularity since he moved into politics, having spotted a lack of GOP leadership around 11 or 12 years ago).
Maybe Charles and his speech advisers can subtly refer to the difficulties in keeping promises (GOB so far has 'struck out' - baseball term I gather -- on "no more wars", "I'll end the Ukraine war on day #1", and "it's easy to lower grocery prices"). Or drop a hint that he's sending Andrew over to testify to the Epstein investigators about who he saw doing what?
Yes I did read it, just because a made a statement that was my own opinion just as you put yours didn't make your assumption right
If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy.
The exact opposite would be true, if he were to refuse to go.
The King, as Head of State, is visiting a democratic, independent country, part of which were once colonies of Great Britain, to join in their Independence celebrations.
Those former colonies have expanded and are are now a constitutional federal republic with a democratically elected Head of State.
It is not up to our Head of State to pass judgement on the way the USA conducts its political affairs.
When you think of all the engagements the king has had to go to over his lifetime I'm sure sometimes he has been under the weather but will attend however boring it is.
Unless he is really unwell he will go to the US and tolerate time with Trump with his usual good manners.
He will see it as his duty as king
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