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The King is interfering in the Democratic process in the USA

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Gfplux Wed 01-Apr-26 17:23:42

If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy. This visit will be seen as the King endorsing and approving Trumps behaviour and threats towards the UK.
I can not understand why this visit is going ahead. If it does it will shake my belief and support of the Monarchy.
What do you think?

AGAA4 Wed 01-Apr-26 20:33:12

I feel sorry for the king and queen having to be polite to Trump. Hopefully Trump will behave for once.
I'm sure Charles, given his background, will manage to deal with Trump if he makes disparaging remarks about the UK.

Cossy Wed 01-Apr-26 20:36:00

Iam64

It would be wrong to use the Kings health as an excuse to postpone or cancel this long planned visit. I’m unhappy about the visit given Trunp’s extraordinarily rude comments about the uk, its PM, its armed services etc. still it’s no more than we expect from the horror in the Whitehouse.

To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds

The King has had a lifetime of avoiding politics and diplomatic endeavour
I’m sorry but I conclude the visit stands

I agree

MayBee70 Wed 01-Apr-26 20:58:23

butterandjam

TwiceAsNice

I agree he shouldn’t go. Surely they could pretend his health isn’t good enough. Trump is a maniac and I don’t know why we are pretending he isn’t . Besides all the things that went before he went into Iran with no plan for getting out. Utter madness!

Starmers announcement today about "closer ties with Europe " is the first step towards the Butterandjam prediction;;

that the royal visit will be cancelled at the last possible minute.

" So sorry, King is indisposed"

My first thought, too. Still a few weeks to go before the visit and a lot can happen in that time including Trumps announcement today that Charles would have joined him in the war if he was PM. Might not have enough plane fuel to get there if the war continues anyway.

nanna8 Wed 01-Apr-26 23:53:52

The King is not supposed to be involved in politics since good old Charles 1, his namesake. Of course he should go and he might actually do some good calming things down.

mae13 Thu 02-Apr-26 03:14:15

But the USA doesn't have democracy anymore.

King Donald overules anything and anyone he doesn't like.

So the colonists fought against the UK, back in 1776, to break away from our monarchy and invent their own.

His Majesty Donald and HRH Queen Melania.

Such a gracious couple......

OldFrill Thu 02-Apr-26 08:22:54

I hope Charles' health holds out as if he takes a downward turn the assumption will be he's lying to get out of the visit, which I don't believe he'd do. Not a monarchist but l think Charles has more integrity than many on here who think lying to get out of an unsavoury event is acceptable, even for a Head of State.

Dickens Thu 02-Apr-26 09:02:08

... this made me smile.

mae13 Thu 02-Apr-26 09:07:38

Anniebach

Using cancer as a cop-out is so wrong, the children and grandchildren of Duke of Kent have never worked as working royals.
Refusing to visit America would make Trump important

Mister Trump is important only in his own warped mind. Maybe getting Royal egg on his face is just what he needs.

Anniebach Thu 02-Apr-26 09:14:27

The king isn’t one for throwing eggs at faces

Jaberwok Thu 02-Apr-26 09:45:48

nanna8. King Charles was not named after either Charles 1st(!) or the 11nd, but was in fact named after the late Queen 's favourite uncle, and Charles Godfather, the King of Norway. King Haakon V11th of Norway was formally Prince Carl of Denmark, he married Princess Maud of Wales, the youngest daughter of King Edward V11th, and Queen Alexandra formally of Denmark.

Oreo Thu 02-Apr-26 10:29:21

Made me smile too Dickens😁

Oreo Thu 02-Apr-26 10:31:18

To answer the OP, the King is not interfering in US democracy by his visit there, why would anyone even think that.

JenniferEccles Thu 02-Apr-26 10:40:05

Lovely Dickens !
How would Trump react if Charles cancelled his visit? He would consider it a huge snub, wouldn’t he, and quite rightly so.

Obviously if Charles’ health deteriorated, then that’s a different matter.

Luckygirl3 Thu 02-Apr-26 10:59:40

The fact that ther king would go whoever the POTUS might be (sane? Democrat?) shows that his visit is not an endorsement of the regime.

Starmer has been standing up to Trump over several things - and rightly so - and needs the king to continue with the visit to massage the silly man's ego by simply going.

I am sure the king is pig sick about the whole thing but it is how he earns his trillions and castles et al. So he will bite the bullet and do it in spite of being elderly and sick.

Caleo Thu 02-Apr-26 11:10:20

eazybee

What utter nonsense. The King has been invited by Trump, and does his duty to his country as best he may; doubtless his diplomatic skills and good manners will go some way to alleviate the very poor impression Starmer has created.

I agree with Easybee. King Charles has good manners, diplomatic skill, and profound sense of duty

RosiesMawagain Thu 02-Apr-26 11:13:00

I agree that is overthought and misguided nonsense

Caleo Thu 02-Apr-26 11:17:06

Ode to Duty (Wo0rdsworth)

. Stern Daughter of the Voice of God!
O Duty! if that name thou love
Who art a light to guide, a rod
To check the erring, and reprove;
Thou, who art victory and law
When empty terrors overawe;
From vain temptations dost set free;
And calm'st the weary strife of frail humanity!
There are who ask not if thine eye
Be on them; who, in love and truth,
Where no misgiving is, rely
Upon the genial sense of youth:
Glad Hearts! without reproach or blot;
Who do thy work, and know it not:
Oh! if through confidence misplaced
They fail, thy saving arms, dread Power! around them cast.

Calendargirl Thu 02-Apr-26 11:19:23

Ladyleftfieldlover

One way out of this deplorable situation would be to say the King is unwell and send a very lowly Royal. There’s plenty of them after all - maybe one of the Kent grandchildren.

To lie about the King’s health would be totally wrong.

Apart from anything else, it would trigger unnecessary speculation.

If he doesn’t go, it should be for legitimate reasons, not lies.

Allira Thu 02-Apr-26 12:06:48

The King is going to help celebrate the American Independence celebrations.

It has nothing to do with endorsing Trump and that is a ludicrous suggestion.
Goodness knows what Charles may be thinking but he will be too diplomatic to say so.
I hope Camilla manages to keep a straight face if Trump starts burbling his usual verbal diarrhoea.

Allira Thu 02-Apr-26 12:09:30

To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds

This sums it up perfectly Iam64!!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 02-Apr-26 12:38:18

Diplomacy takes the long term view. The trip is about the 250th anniversary of the founding of the US. Not something you can put off till the next one. History would just point out that the decline of the UK's position in the world finally reached bottom when the King failed to attend the celebrations.

Astitchintime Thu 02-Apr-26 12:56:28

Trump will put his own spin on the visit! No doubt he will greet the King and Queen on the tarmac wearing his own crown and ermine trimmed cloak and behave like the total buffoon that he is! I’d put money on him walking in front of the King too…….remember how he behaved during his visit to the UK when the late Queen was alive!

Casdon Thu 02-Apr-26 14:04:39

Poetic justice would be a pothole on the tarmac tripping him up and dropping his crown if that were the case Astitchintime. Our King and Queen would have to stifle their laughter.

knspol Thu 02-Apr-26 14:21:33

Considering the state of the relationship between the US and the UK at the moment it's probably a good thing that he is going as he may be able to improve the situation as Trump really does seem to care about the monarchy.
Having said that I also agree that it will look to many people that he is endorsing Trump's actions. The alternative though would be to refuse with some sort of excuse that wouldn't be believed and that would cause a lot of resentment and ill feeeing. The King can't win whatever he does.

sixandahalf Thu 02-Apr-26 14:23:51

History would just point out that the decline of the UK's position in the world

Nothing lasts for ever.