Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

MaizieD

^We are not walking in their shoes…^

We may not all be walking in their shoes but it's easy enough to understand what difficulties many people are facing. Low wages when inflation is barely falling while interest rates stay higher than they should be, shortage of jobs apart from low paid 'gig' jobs.

Many of us would not turn to Reform for solutions, but even those of us who are comfortably off are suffering from crumbling public services, crumbling infrastructure (especially those potholes which make driving into a sort of slalom course to avoid them) and rising prices.

As I have just said, it needs an understanding of how a national economy works to be able to judge whether Reform could make meaningful changes in people's lives. As it happens, they are not exactly doing this in the local councils they have taken control of, which is, to me, an indication that they wouldn't be much good handling a national economy...

I agree, I wouldn’t have voted for Trump, will not vote for Reform either.

My point is that we cannot see inside people’s mind to understand why they vote the way they do, or even answer polls the way they do.

I feel uncomfortable when those who did vote for the current POTUS are all lumped together and given various labels none of which are flattering .

Perhaps I am trying to be too understanding of others 🤷‍♀️

Grievance politics is what is driving populism. Basically find a scapegoat like immigration, tie it to people's disatisfaction and "bingo" you have a political party with plenty of support but no answers to anyone's problems. Once you are in power you can do pretty much as you like to line your own pockets. I think all of Trump's actions are driven primarily by making money, so yes, his tacos, no doubt, are used to increase his personal wealth. Farage is in the same mould but currently on a much smaller scale.

foxie48

Trump effectively cut 34billion from overseas aid and to date the US has spent about 60 billion on the war in Iran and has approximately 200 billion's worth of damage to it's military bases in the ME. Goodness knows how much the damage in ME countries will cost to repair. What a senseless way to spend and waste money!

As a side issue, I had no idea that the cost of overseas aid was enough to find a war for a few weeks.

There's a suspicion that Trumps erratic announcements (not just now, but in the past) are deliberately made to facilitate insider trading

In which case he is being clever.
Awful awful awful behaviour. But clever.

I never much doubted he was clever.
No one can get to where he is without being so.

But he is both clever and stupid[I presume unless other things turn up to discredit that].
Which it is possible to be.

As someone I know used to say, clever people can still jump in puddles.

fancythat

foxie48

Trump effectively cut 34billion from overseas aid and to date the US has spent about 60 billion on the war in Iran and has approximately 200 billion's worth of damage to it's military bases in the ME. Goodness knows how much the damage in ME countries will cost to repair. What a senseless way to spend and waste money!

As a side issue, I had no idea that the cost of overseas aid was enough to find a war for a few weeks.

Obviously meant fund.

As a side issue, I had no idea that the cost of overseas aid was enough to find a war for a few weeks.

It isn't and it doesn't have to be.

The illegal war is being funded by the US government's ability to create money with the pressing of a few computer keys.

This is absolute fact.

Governments like to lie about it because it gives them power over who gets, and who doesn't get, the state issued money.

fancythat

^There's a suspicion that Trumps erratic announcements (not just now, but in the past) are deliberately made to facilitate insider trading^

In which case he is being clever.
Awful awful awful behaviour. But clever.

I never much doubted he was clever.
No one can get to where he is without being so.

But he is both clever and stupid[I presume unless other things turn up to discredit that].
Which it is possible to be.

As someone I know used to say, clever people can still jump in puddles.

I think it can only be perceived as clever where there is an exit plan from the situation you have created, so you can cut and run. I don’t believe he has an exit plan.

That is part of him being stupid.

Casdon

fancythat

There's a suspicion that Trumps erratic announcements (not just now, but in the past) are deliberately made to facilitate insider trading

In which case he is being clever.
Awful awful awful behaviour. But clever.

I never much doubted he was clever.
No one can get to where he is without being so.

But he is both clever and stupid[I presume unless other things turn up to discredit that].
Which it is possible to be.

As someone I know used to say, clever people can still jump in puddles.

I think it can only be perceived as clever where there is an exit plan from the situation you have created, so you can cut and run. I don’t believe he has an exit plan.

Someone can be wily, devious, cunning and manipulative without being particularly intelligent or even clever.

fancythat

foxie48

Trump effectively cut 34billion from overseas aid and to date the US has spent about 60 billion on the war in Iran and has approximately 200 billion's worth of damage to it's military bases in the ME. Goodness knows how much the damage in ME countries will cost to repair. What a senseless way to spend and waste money!

As a side issue, I had no idea that the cost of overseas aid was enough to find a war for a few weeks.

17 days of war would have provided food, healthcare, clean water etc etc for millions of the poorest people in the world. I know where I'd rather have my money spent!

CNN exclusive on trader dealing.
edition.cnn.com/2026/03/24/politics/iran-war-bets-prediction-markets

Allira

Casdon

fancythat

There's a suspicion that Trumps erratic announcements (not just now, but in the past) are deliberately made to facilitate insider trading

In which case he is being clever.
Awful awful awful behaviour. But clever.

I never much doubted he was clever.
No one can get to where he is without being so.

But he is both clever and stupid[I presume unless other things turn up to discredit that].
Which it is possible to be.

As someone I know used to say, clever people can still jump in puddles.

I think it can only be perceived as clever where there is an exit plan from the situation you have created, so you can cut and run. I don’t believe he has an exit plan.

Someone can be wily, devious, cunning and manipulative without being particularly intelligent or even clever.

True.

But I dont think you can make millions without being pretty clever and intelligent.

Trump is using insider trading to line his own pockets. The reason for this war with Iran, some believe, was for Trump to make trillions and become even richer.
Corruption at it's worst when taking the lives of people who are in the firing line to gain more wealth.
I don't believe Trump is clever but he has people around him who are and knows their way around the stock market.

fancythat

Allira

Casdon

fancythat

There's a suspicion that Trumps erratic announcements (not just now, but in the past) are deliberately made to facilitate insider trading

In which case he is being clever.
Awful awful awful behaviour. But clever.

I never much doubted he was clever.
No one can get to where he is without being so.

But he is both clever and stupid[I presume unless other things turn up to discredit that].
Which it is possible to be.

As someone I know used to say, clever people can still jump in puddles.

I think it can only be perceived as clever where there is an exit plan from the situation you have created, so you can cut and run. I don’t believe he has an exit plan.

Someone can be wily, devious, cunning and manipulative without being particularly intelligent or even clever.

True.

But I dont think you can make millions without being pretty clever and intelligent.

Then lose it all again!!

True again

CNN is being bought over by a Trump donor.

It’s this guy. Led by Donkeys are on the case.
www.facebook.com/ledbydonkeys/videos/we-tracked-down-the-superyacht-owned-by-the-worlds-sixth-richest-man-larry-ellis/1444410739932984/

Does anyone else think that the reason Trump held off from bombing Iran's gas field was because the US military said no.? This would be seen by them as a serious war crime that they would not want to be involved in..
Maybe Trump is using the five days to bully them into complying.

No i don't think he pays much heed to his military advisers. He's a narcissistic megolomaniac

Megalomaniac. Can't spell tonight!

They have already refused to go into the Strait of Hormuz understandably. Have they also refused to attack South Pars.

iwould be a happy if he would the fup

I dream that the Military will become overwhelmed with ethics and historical awareness and refuse to get involved in illegal activitied

Anybody remember Country Joe and the Fish at Woodstock? And it’s one, two three, what are we fighting for? Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn, next stop is Vietnam. The vets have just put it up on YouTube. Nothing changes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlK6n6ziV9A

Casdon, I’ve been watching Country Joe on my Facebook reel and posted it last week
If only young people would rise