Women in Afghanistan

It was dreadful WhiteWave. The West 'led them on'.

Can we do anything to stop the rot on social media?

Maremia

fancythat, was the young man in that film you watched ever trying to address the situation of women in his country?

Not that I saw. At all.

Listen and weep 😥
Muslim women and the Dawha Bros.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002rdcv

Well, this very recent story didn't make me weep, it made me angry.

I know nothing about the organisation I've linked to. It was also in the Independent but that is usually paywalled.

!8 year old Afghan girl with scholarships to two UK universities denied a student visa.

Angry that we can't make exceptions for cases like this.

britbrief.co.uk/politics/immigration/afghan-girls-uk-university-dream-blocked-by-visa-ban.html

Yes, wonder if this will be appealed?

Thanks for the link MaizieD. I heard a radio 4 news piece about this. I am angry this courageous young woman is not being made an exception of.

Might be worth a letter to the relevant Minister?

So that would be Shabana Mahmood.
Hope this Thread doesn't drop too soon, so I can find the details.
News and Politics. Will be able to find it.
If you ask a relevant question, you usually get an answer.

Afghanistan is a terrible place for women, much like Iran, maybe worse.India and Pakistan are awful for women too.

Whitewavemark2

What I think is really unforgivable is that the west opened a window for Afghanistan women and allowed them to think that they had the right to education and other freedoms like freedom from the tyranny of the burka, being stoned to death, going out and about without male escort etc.

Then we shut it with a loud bang.

What a dreadful thing to do.

It was….but none of the Western countries could really stay there forever.
People grumble about Western interference and grumble when it ends too.The men in Afghanistan need to change as do the men in India and Pakistan, change the old ways such as wife beating and rape of unprotected girls and women.

Have just read her 'wiki', and she seems quite hardline, but hey ho, I'll give it a go.

Is there a sponsorship plan for Afghan women, as there was for the Ukrainians?
That worked.

There was one, it was closed. It wasn't specifically for women I don't think but for those identified as vulnerable under the regime.

Thanks Galaxy.

I was wondering why it was closed, and it was partly due to many new applicants not meeting criteria, but I had also forgotten about the data breach where they released thousands of the names of the applicants, so the closure seems to be partly linked to that as well.

Radio 4/just now, interview with a yiung Afghan woman who studied at Oxford, now in the USA. She spoke positively of the opportunities she had in the UK. She was welcomed and found British people warm friendly supportive. She hopes this policy can be amended

Iam64

The situation for women and girls in Afghanistan is shocking and seems to be getting worse. I wish the women and girls could get to Europe and find refuge. That’s unlikely given every move is proscribed. I find it difficult not to wonder how many men who seek refuge in Europe share the Taliban views on women and girls

2 very good points from your post.
1. Yes, very unlikely that women could escape to Europe as they have to have a male chaperone with them when they go outside the home.

2. Sadly these young men, brought up in cultures where women are second best to men, will have exactly those views on women. We have seen so much of it in the media with sexual assaults and rapes.

There are a lot of Afghan girls studying in Rwanda.

www.mathschool.com/blog/news-and-events/empowering-girls-through-math-sola-and-rsm

That's amazing. Will they stay in Rwanda when they finish school?

The thing Sarnia, about violence and rape, is that British men, with their upbringing, also commit these crimes.

It’s not just the women who are abused in Afghanistan.
There is a practice involving young boys called Bacha Bazi translates to Play Boy.

www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/shame-and-silence-bacha-bazi-in-afghanistan/

Thanks petra for your link. I’d read about this disgusting practice, one that’s been seen in other cultures but seems prevalent and accepted in cultures I’d identify as promoting the idea that adult macho men rule everyone else.

It fits neatly into my ongoing question about why so many men are sexually attracted to children.

Iam64
Power? As in a lot of rape cases it has nothing to do with sex.
It’s that power of terrifying someone.

Whitewavemark2

What I think is really unforgivable is that the west opened a window for Afghanistan women and allowed them to think that they had the right to education and other freedoms like freedom from the tyranny of the burka, being stoned to death, going out and about without male escort etc.

Then we shut it with a loud bang.

What a dreadful thing to do.

I feel this way too! I think this is why I’m so angry about this whole Iranian debacle, Trump will undoubtedly step away when he’s bored and say “it’s up to the people of Iran now! What does he believe? Normal Iranian people have a stash of weapons in the back of their wardrobes?

I feel very angry when the same rhetoric is applied to male refugees, “oh why are they not staying in their own countries and fighting back?”, or “what cowards these men are, coming here without the females!”

So to answer both questions, most of these men have no access to weapons of any type, most of these journeys are far to arduous for women with children to actually make.