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Trump Rebukes Starmer?

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mae13 Tue 03-Mar-26 11:42:46

Well, I never!

It seems Sir Keir's efforts as regards Iran just simply aren't good enough for Mister President.

That's gratitude for you.

Vintagewhine Wed 04-Mar-26 08:02:38

Starmer is in agreement with 75% of Americans who don't agree with the war.

Maremia Wed 04-Mar-26 08:05:23

Trump's criticism is one of the best things that's happened to Starmer recently.

eddiecat78 Wed 04-Mar-26 08:14:54

Just a few weeks ago Trump was saying USA didn't need Europe. Indeed he stated that America had fought the war in Afghanistan without our troops being involved.
Why on earth would we help him now?

sixandahalf Wed 04-Mar-26 08:17:33

Maremia

Trump's criticism is one of the best things that's happened to Starmer recently.

Agree.

Smileless2012 Wed 04-Mar-26 08:18:08

Precisely eddiecat.

AGAA4 Wed 04-Mar-26 08:20:24

Trump criticised our brave military not so long ago saying they stayed back from the fighting. It was a disgusting statement so anything Trump says should be taken with a whole barrel of salt.
He now criticises Starmer when he is one of the worst presidents the US have had.

Fallingstar Wed 04-Mar-26 09:07:40

I would see any criticism by Trump as a good thing seeing as he has complimented both Putin and the North Korean leader as strong men who care about their people in the past. Anything he says is absolute manure.
And Winston Churchill whom Trump used as part of his insult to Starmer would have found Trump to be a complete fool am sure.

Oreo Wed 04-Mar-26 09:08:47

Vintagewhine

Starmer is in agreement with 75% of Americans who don't agree with the war.

Most Americans never agree with a war which they see as being too far away to affect them, they have no interest in the rest of the world.
They didn’t agree with WW2 until after Pearl Harbour.

eazybee Wed 04-Mar-26 10:02:19

I have just seen someone on television, a member of a Churchill society, repeat the words of Mary Soames (Churchill's daughter) : 'do not put words into my father's mouth'.

Starmer, in my opinion, isa very dangerous man.

AGAA4 Wed 04-Mar-26 10:02:35

Trump has allowed himself to be dragged into this war by Netanyahu going against the wishes of his own people.
The US were in no immediate danger from Iran so this war is illegal and has caused many others to be brought into it.

Allira Wed 04-Mar-26 10:17:21

Meandrogrog

Ilovecheese

I'm not keen on Starmer Meandrogrog but I think bringing forward the end of the world in order to get rid of him would be a bit excessive.

Its more about how he has failed to be a strong and decisive leader, he is just not a leader.

As others have said, it takes a strong leader to say No to Trump.

If only more people had done so all his life, we might not be where we are now.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 04-Mar-26 10:33:00

Starmer follows the rule of law, unlike Trump.

At least with someone who follows the law we all know where we are.

Trump has no idea where Iran will be this time next year or indeed next month. He has no plan or frankly interest in the population.

If anyone thinks that Trump or Netanyahu are doing this for anything other than self interest they are utterly deluded.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 04-Mar-26 10:39:50

Someone in the Haig is suggesting that if Trump doesn’t think Starmer is Churchill, how about emulating Churchill who was instrumental in instigating the rule of international law, the human rights etc.

All of which Trump is trashing.

AGAA4 Wed 04-Mar-26 10:44:05

When the fallout from this war starts to cost us maybe those who are cheering on Trump will change their minds.
It is estimated that our energy bill will rise by £500 a year due to.this conflict. There will be many other costs that will filter down to us.

I don't believe the UK was in any more danger from Iran than we already are. Apart from the war being illegal Starmer will have factored in the enormous cost to us as well.

More importantly the loss of life and injury due to this war will have been considered.

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 04-Mar-26 10:52:29

Do we think the King will still be visiting the USA next month? I believe the trip has already been cut to 3 days because of his cancer treatment.

Tuliptree Wed 04-Mar-26 10:56:16

AGAA4

When the fallout from this war starts to cost us maybe those who are cheering on Trump will change their minds.
It is estimated that our energy bill will rise by £500 a year due to.this conflict. There will be many other costs that will filter down to us.

I don't believe the UK was in any more danger from Iran than we already are. Apart from the war being illegal Starmer will have factored in the enormous cost to us as well.

More importantly the loss of life and injury due to this war will have been considered.

Exactly - and it’s not just energy bills is it that will be affected? Oil and gas prices affect the price of a whole host of commodities and the supply chain will also be impacted. There’s a good chance now that inflation will go up again and interest rates won’t be coming down later this month as had been hoped. And all for what? Iran will not change except to have its infrastructure badly damaged. DT snd BN do not care about Iran or anyone else in the world except themselves.

Fallingstar Wed 04-Mar-26 10:57:59

Ladyleftfieldlover

Do we think the King will still be visiting the USA next month? I believe the trip has already been cut to 3 days because of his cancer treatment.

I think he should say he has to cut it altogether due to his cancer treatment but will send Andrew instead, on the proviso that he doesn’t return.

Basgetti Wed 04-Mar-26 11:06:30

Yes, Oreo, (apologies, couldn’t quote you for some reason) after a British base on Cyprus was hit. What would you suggest KS do about that act of aggression, ignore it?
KS has handled this absolutely correctly. As he has most international diplomacy since becoming PM.
I’m a floating voter. Voted Labour to get shot of the previous shambles. I’m disappointed in some domestic policies, very disappointed in its comms people’s failure to effectively communicate the good things the government is doing.
I don’t think his international competency can be faulted.

Sueinkent Wed 04-Mar-26 11:40:15

Meandrogrog

Sueinkent

Oreo

Elegran

Oreo

Freya5

Elegran

In an international situation it is of course international law which applies. It is no use telling a foreign head of state that Uk law says they can't do that in a third country. They would laugh in your face. The fact that Trump is as likely to ignore international law as he is to ignore the constitution of his own country is not a reason for Starmer to throw away the international lawbook. He is pretty keen on UK law, too, unlike some politicians.

International Law. Let's wait and see how many other countries Iran attacks, just for the hell of it, even their next door neighbours, who had done nothing.Where was International Law, and Starmer, and the EU, when Iran thugs were murdering their own people. They cried for help, Starmer and his cronies denied them.
As soon as this evil regime has gone the better.

Freya
Absolutely! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Sure, Let's all pile in and bomb each other to oblivion. What fun! Just press the button and enjoy the fireworks. Who is volunteering for the suicide missions?

Or would you rather criticise everyone else for not volunteering ?

That’s just silly.
Iran is not just a terrible regime to its own people but a real worry to not only Israel and surrounding region but to the world as it encourages and arms terror groups.Now it’s getting close to having nuclear capability and was enjoying playing cat and mouse with the talks, which were never going anywhere.
What’s happening now is necessary.

You do realise Israel finances Hamas and has owned up to doing so according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz? Besides which, it is up to the Iranians to remove their own government. No one else.

They get killed when they try!

They are getting killed now. By the Israelis and the Americans.

Sueinkent Wed 04-Mar-26 11:42:22

The Americans and Brits killed over a million in Iraq. This will be a repeat.

Allira Wed 04-Mar-26 11:42:45

In comparison to Trump, Starmer sounds like a statesman.

Basgetti I agree.

Allira Wed 04-Mar-26 11:43:52

eazybee

I have just seen someone on television, a member of a Churchill society, repeat the words of Mary Soames (Churchill's daughter) : 'do not put words into my father's mouth'.

Starmer, in my opinion, isa very dangerous man.

Do you mean Trump? confused

Basgetti Wed 04-Mar-26 11:46:28

I suspect many of those who would vote Churchill the greatest ever Briton have little knowledge of his very shady history outside of WW2 leadership.

Maremia Wed 04-Mar-26 12:31:23

Ex Ambassador speaking to the BBC today, saying there had been a treaty with Iran. Trump tore it up. If there was actual real evidence of a threat to the USA it would have been revealed. Her verdict? No threat to the USA.

Iam64 Wed 04-Mar-26 12:57:31

Churchill wasn’t a perfect leader, or individual. his actions in ww1 killed thousands of our troops.
He’s remembered with respect for being the leader we needed in Ww 2.
Trump is a dangerous man, totally lacking in integrity and ignorant on world affairs. His personal wealth is said to be increasing exponentially as a result of his policies,