Future of the Monarchy

An electorate educated to university standard in social sciences and history is essential otherwise we may get a Trump or a Farage as head of state.

Moreover, the glorification of traditional aristocracy undermines the meritocratic society.

I do believe we need an elected Upper House.

However, having a hereditary Head of State does not bother me, in fact, I think it is preferable as they are symbolic figureheads.
If we had an elected Head of State we would need to be extremely careful to retain a Parliamentary system rather than a Presidential system.

Caleo

An electorate educated to university standard in social sciences and history is essential otherwise we may get a Trump or a Farage as head of state.

No, not necessary at all.

I seem to be really angry about the Royal family. I just think they should self fund.

They have enough wealth without top ups from ordinary people

Oreo

Are you a teacher or a teaching assistant or another job in a school Jane Judge as the salaries in ‘education’ vary widely.
Teachers do not require food banks, neither do nurses.

One of my kids is a nurse another is a teacher. Both early 30s, nice houses, no debts unless they are lying to me. I'm pretty certain theyve never used food banks.

StoneofDestiny

*He served in the Navy for 22 years*

Not on his own he didn't! Thousands of others did.

So, would you say THEY

"never actually DID anything, never put in." ?

are they single income households?

JaneJudge

I seem to be really angry about the Royal family. I just think they should self fund.

They have enough wealth without top ups from ordinary people

Why should a Head of State self-fund?
That would really be impossible!

Do you think a President would do that? Entertain other Heads of State, all the other duties that go with a H of S?

What exactly do you think you are funding? 🤔

If people have to use foodbanks, do you think that would change with a change from the type of Constitutional Monarchy we have now to a Republic?
Of course it wouldn't. It is the elected Government which is responsible for the economy.

JaneJudge

are they single income households?

Was that for me?

Yes no nonsense has been coming out of the university educated at all

JaneJudge

I seem to be really angry about the Royal family. I just think they should self fund.

They have enough wealth without top ups from ordinary people

Could you present us with the alternative system of government you would prefer and how this would change life for those on C£35,000 - £40,000pa forced to use foodbanks?

theworriedwell

JaneJudge

are they single income households?

Was that for me?

Yes it was. Rent on a 3 bed house where I live is £2k and it isn't even posh.

JaneJudge

People it Poole
Honestly these people don’t care about us

"Because she most people Do not have a horse"
" People it Poole"


You were "in education" ?

JaneJudge

are they single income households?

Ah, well, now, that is a different issue altogether.

Why is there so much family breakdown in Britain today?

Do you blame the Royal Family for setting a bad example, perhaps?

Just to clarify Allira my kids both earn more than £40k even though one is part-time after maternity leave.

Janejudge they don't pay rent but they do have mortgages.

Allira, I can't because my qualifications and experience are far removed. I just find it all vulgar, I can't help that.

JaneJudge

theworriedwell

JaneJudge

are they single income households?

Was that for me?

Yes it was. Rent on a 3 bed house where I live is £2k and it isn't even posh.

Now - why is that?

What possible difference could having a different Head of State make to the housing crisis in the UK?
Who is accountable?

I'd blame successive governments.

theworriedwell

Just to clarify Allira my kids both earn more than £40k even though one is part-time after maternity leave.

Yes, that was an average theworriedwell

I know some nurses can earn far in excess of that as can some teachers but the starting salaries make those I quoted the average amount.

I think that we have to begin to look at the constitution and make some real changes.

No one should be above the law. Therefore criminals in court should be subject to The People v whatever. Not The King.

The King should be subject to the law the same as everyone else.

Allira

^Moreover, the glorification of traditional aristocracy undermines the meritocratic society.^

I do believe we need an elected Upper House.

However, having a hereditary Head of State does not bother me, in fact, I think it is preferable as they are symbolic figureheads.
If we had an elected Head of State we would need to be extremely careful to retain a Parliamentary system rather than a Presidential system.

I strongly agree we need an elected Upper House.

I agree we'd need to be "extremely careful to retain a Parliamentary system rather than a Presidential system".
Extreme care in that regard is in fact an educated electorate.
Educational standards correlate with voting trends.

Graduates (university degree holders) were significantly more likely to vote Remain.

People with fewer formal qualifications were more likely to vote Leave.

This was one of the strongest demographic predictors of voting behavior in the referendum.

Allira I just wanted to put it out there that nurses and teachers can earn good salaries. Obviously mine were on lower salaries ten years ago but that's normal isn't it.

Galaxy

Yes no nonsense has been coming out of the university educated at all

I don't claim that higher education in social sciences and arts is fail safe. I do claim that such education makes it more probable that members of the electorate will be better at critical thinking and empathy. And yes: empathy can be learned from the arts-- empathy is part of what arts are for.

why has what you earn come into a conversation about the monarchy may I ask?

such smugness from some also!

A good start would be for them to pay Inheritance Tax.