Was that the topic of the Reform proposed Q&A?
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Reform UK asked students at Bangor University would they like to enjoy a question-and-answer session with Sarah Pochin – the Reform UK MP famous for saying it “drives me mad” to see TV adverts full of black people – and Jack Anderton, the 25-year-old influencer who helped send Nigel Farage’s TikTok account viral among teenagers? No, the university’s debating society decided, it would not as nt “in line with our values” declining Reform’s offer, expressing “zero tolerance for any form of racism, transphobia or homophobia”.
Reform’s Zia Yusuf thundered on X that Bangor got £30m from taxpayers and he was “sure they won’t mind losing every penny of (their) state funding under a Reform government”.
So Reform threatens to put universities out of business – with all that would mean for students halfway through their degrees, or towns reliant on a major employer – if they don’t fawningly accommodate any regime-backed Reform political nonentity who asks is the stuff of autocracy, not democracy. And the lesson from Donald Trump’s America, where pro-free speech Republicans have proved remarkably intolerant of people speaking against them, is that the pressure rarely stops there.
What would stop the financial intimidation of a BBC reliant on the licence fee? What about charities and cultural or civic institutions receiving public grants, or newspapers with owners anxious to protect their other business interests, or schools? Though a Reform spokesperson later insisted Yusuf’s comments were “not party policy”, Yusef's literal job title is head of policy, and Reform has previously advocated removing at least some funding from universities that don’t protect "free speech".
Was that the topic of the Reform proposed Q&A?
Galaxy 14.58: Touché- once you start throwing words like bigotry and misogyny with absolutely no evidential basis don't be surprised if people respond to you.
You have provided no rational explanation why the Bangor debating society members should be expected to organise for Reform and then turn up in their free time to a Reform Party Q and A session? Many students do actually study and many do have part time jobs alongside to survive financially. If Reform want Bangor students to attend a Q and Q session with SP and JA- SP and JA themselves should organise an event, hire a venue close to University Campus, send out invitations to students etc. There is no reason why the debating society should be expected to do this on Reform's behalf.
If Reform wrote to me, in my local U3A member capacity, asking for a local Reform SP and JA Q and A session for our U3A members - my immediate reaction would also be- it's not in our U3a constitution or values to organise or host party political Q and A sessions. I would not be very popular suggesting it for our monthly outside speaker meeting either. I no doubt would be told quite firmly SP and has said some ridiculous comments read about in the press, some if not many would find her comments racist. Our U3A constitution also has zero tolerance for racism, transphobia and homophobia in all events, activities, communications etc. and the U3a committee might ask me to make that clear to SP and JA in response. If I did so no doubt you would you be accusing me of bigotry and misogyny- when you have no idea what my views are one way or another on "trans issues" - absolutely ridiculous conflation. Plus why should our u3a use precious funds to book a venue. I wouldn't want to organise it and neither would I want to give up my free time to attend.
You have no evidential basis for concluding any individual in the Bangor debating society is a bigot or a misogynist.
What evidential evidence do you have that SP is transphobic.
Google's answer is that Reform is transphobic, without saying that Sarah Pochin specifically is also. Didn't say that she wasn't.
But that was just a skim check,
Well yes if I Google the labour party and transphobia I can find numerous entries saying that the labour party is transphobic. One group smashed Wes streetings windows because of his 'transphobia'. It is a word that does a lot of heavy lifting.
There is so much evidence revealing why we need to fear Reform getting to power. The Nazi salutes thrown by some of their members and supporters, the Fascist language they use, the demonising of minorities, their plans to dismantle the NHS, their alignment to Trump and Russia, their disastrous performance in local government, Farage's shocking absence rate from Parliament and his absence from his own constituency. Isn't that enough before we even consider just how bad Brexit had been for this country.
How could I forget - thexTory Party that had 14 years and 5 Prime Ministers that left us a collapse economy - now the same people have joined Reform to have another go!
Thought it was you who was asking, Galaxy???
One thing is that they keep inventing new parties, so hopefully the vote will be split.
Yes I was, am just highlighting the meaningless of the term.
Transphobic, fascist, toxic, racist ,all words thrown around so regularly and often wrongly that they’ve lost all real meaning.
If the word transphobia is meaningless for you Galaxy dont use it.
However you described the Bangor students yesterday at 19.33 as "that bunch of homophobic misogynists". For some reason today at 12.50 you then said "SP views trans issues are exactly the same as mine. I view anyone who thinks men should be in women's spaces as deeply deeply misogynistic. Utter bigots". Bangor students have not mentioned men in women's spaces however.
At 14.58 you then said "one of the reasons they gave for refusal was transphobia"- not it didn't- it expressed its position and I quote it has : “zero tolerance for any form of racism, transphobia or homophobia" As this is a legal requirement under the UK Equality Act 2010 what exactly is the problem?
At 16.55 you then ask Galaxy "what evidential evidence do you have that SP is transphobic" - who has said that she is? To whom are you asking the question? I'm aware however SP had made some racist comments - well reported in the national press however.
All these words have real meaning for me but I am not sure why you are throwing them around as accusations without evidential basis. You have accused members of the Bangor debating society as "homophobic misogynists" - for no justified reason.
They weren't just out of nowhere stating their equality position were they? They were aiming it specifically at reform. If we have established that
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reform aren't homophobic or transphobic that's fine. There will of course be homophobic members in reform as there are in any party but that's by the by.
Galaxy-. They weren't just contacting Reform out of nowhere - Reform contacted them- utter rubbish.
Their RESPONSE letter quoted it has : - as this is a legal requirement under the UK Equality Act 2010 There is absolutely no problem with that. You may not be aware that there have been press reports of outside speakers at universities breaking the requirements of the Equality Act. It may well be a clause used as a precaution in all such letter responses. For some reason you take exception to the phrase someone has “zero tolerance for any form of racism, transphobia or homophobia" and leads you to accuse them of being a bunch of homophobic misogynists and bigots. That really says more about you than the debating society Galaxy....
I am quite comfortable with my position Lemonjam. .
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