I deplore Jim Ratcliffe's words. (owner of Man U)

I agree with him too and I wish he hadn’t felt compelled to apologise.

Opal

Oreo

Opal

Galaxy

Presumably this will be deleted like the other 2 threads.

They've deleted 3 now!

😬 not worth bothering to reply then.

It's ridiculous Oreo, whatever happened to free speech?

Yep....free speech is very much part of British values - well it was.....and only some of us are aware it still is...

There will be a reason. I didn’t see your thread, but perhaps somebody who did can remember what exactly was said which may throw some light on it.

Nope, just deleted the whole thread.

Opal

Casdon

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Oreo

I haven’t seen anything that warrants taking the thread down, so am mystified .

I could tell you what I think, but they'd take the thread down .....

Do you understand the rules of Gransnet Opal? Either you or somebody else on your thread must have said something that was not within the Gransnet guidelines, that’s the only reason the thread would have been deleted. It’s not dependent on who reports it, but on whether the admins think it breaks them.

Yes I do understand the rules of Gransnet Casdon, and as far as I know, no rules were broken. As the admins have not informed me why they removed it, I have no idea why they did so.

If you message them directly they will tell you, that’s your best option. If other people responded it might be something somebody else said, although they usually just ban that post and by that refer to it when that happens.

A great deal of the country would agree Sago

Casdon

Opal

Oreo

I haven’t seen anything that warrants taking the thread down, so am mystified .

I could tell you what I think, but they'd take the thread down .....

Do you understand the rules of Gransnet Opal? Either you or somebody else on your thread must have said something that was not within the Gransnet guidelines, that’s the only reason the thread would have been deleted. It’s not dependent on who reports it, but on whether the admins think it breaks them.

Yes I do understand the rules of Gransnet Casdon, and as far as I know, no rules were broken. As the admins have not informed me why they removed it, I have no idea why they did so.

Hold onto your hat Wyllow3 as this thread may whoosh off at any time 😲🎩

“The owner of one of the world's largest chemical companies, Ineos, said: “You can’t have an economy with nine million people on benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in.”

I totally agree with him.

Although I would go as far as to use the word invaded rather than colonised.

1960srelic

I agree with Wyllow. I've seen many health professionals in recent years and almost all are immigrants. I'm very grateful to all of them.

I had a recent hospital stay and cannot express my gratitude enough for the kindness that many recent incomers have especially I have noticed respect for older people becuase in their culture of origin families do look after their own, however poor they are.
Also enjoyed some conversations about similarities and differences of culture. Life is full of interest if you are curious, not a grumbler.

Opal

Oreo

I haven’t seen anything that warrants taking the thread down, so am mystified .

I could tell you what I think, but they'd take the thread down .....

Do you understand the rules of Gransnet Opal? Either you or somebody else on your thread must have said something that was not within the Gransnet guidelines, that’s the only reason the thread would have been deleted. It’s not dependent on who reports it, but on whether the admins think it breaks them.

Wyllow3

*Just to make this clear, as discussing another thread WILL get this deleted
I reported my own O/P immediately to check it was OK. Please can we stay with the subject from this post on*

This is our chance to speak upon JimRadcliffes words and the fall out.

That's what I was doing on my thread, but it was deleted.

Oreo

I haven’t seen anything that warrants taking the thread down, so am mystified .

I could tell you what I think, but they'd take the thread down .....

*Just to make this clear, as discussing another thread WILL get this deleted
I reported my own O/P immediately to check it was OK. Please can we stay with the subject from this post on*

This is our chance to speak upon JimRadcliffes words and the fall out.

Primrose53

I agree with what he said. It was just a few sentences and it seems to me it was just one word that offended SOME people. It wasn’t a foul mouthed rant, but a very brief and quietly spoken opinion.

We all know the NHS is full of people who came here many years ago but they came here LEGALLY and are greatly valued and respected. We have first hand experience of surgeons, nurses, doctors, cleaners etc as my son had major surgery last Oct at Addenbrooke’s and is now having chemo elsewhere.

Jim Ratcliffe paid £110 million in tax here in 2017/2018 before he decided to spend half his time in Monaco. To be honest I would probably do the same just as many other very wealthy Brits have done!

Sadly Primrose, a quiet opinion is no longer allowed. I agree wholeheartedly.

We are all immigrants, it’s just that for some of us our families came here longer ago than others.

I haven’t seen anything that warrants taking the thread down, so am mystified .

Oreo

Opal

Galaxy

Presumably this will be deleted like the other 2 threads.

They've deleted 3 now!

😬 not worth bothering to reply then.

It's ridiculous Oreo, whatever happened to free speech?

I agree with what he said. It was just a few sentences and it seems to me it was just one word that offended SOME people. It wasn’t a foul mouthed rant, but a very brief and quietly spoken opinion.

We all know the NHS is full of people who came here many years ago but they came here LEGALLY and are greatly valued and respected. We have first hand experience of surgeons, nurses, doctors, cleaners etc as my son had major surgery last Oct at Addenbrooke’s and is now having chemo elsewhere.

Jim Ratcliffe paid £110 million in tax here in 2017/2018 before he decided to spend half his time in Monaco. To be honest I would probably do the same just as many other very wealthy Brits have done!

Opal

Galaxy

Presumably this will be deleted like the other 2 threads.

They've deleted 3 now!

😬 not worth bothering to reply then.

You can consider him however you like Grandmabatty it’s a free country ( so far.)
I agree with his core message even he exaggerated and got the numbers wrong.
There are far too many not working and on benefits and immigration is too high, even the government knows it and is working on it so they say.
It’s nothing to do with being Reform voters, many Labour and Conservative voters will agree with his message.

Galaxy

Presumably this will be deleted like the other 2 threads.

They've deleted 3 now!

It's easy to see where Reform get their followers!
I have no time for anyone who has a multi national football team rabbiting on about 'colonisation' while he himself lives in Monaco to avoid paying tax. Hardly the action of a loyal Brit. In addition, he closed the local refinery where I live, despite appeals to encourage a local buy out. Hes made my son in law as well as hundreds of others redundant. So forgive me if I consider him a grade A shit

Yes I agree with him,they are not all hard working.

I felt he wasn’t meaning immigrants who came after the war, the Windrush generation and others, who we invited and needed to work for the NHS, the transport system, factories and so on.

He was talking about the last few years when it’s all so different.

His choice of words wasn’t the best, I think he realised that afterwards, but many will agree with his sentiments.

I did.