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Keir Starmer Is A Barrister - So How Is It......

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mae13 Sat 07-Feb-26 03:59:46

.........he couldn't work out that Peter Mandelson is an accomplished liar?

As has been pointed out in various media, did Starmer just take everything Mandelson said at face value?

"Move along there, nothing to see here........"

Jane43 Mon 09-Feb-26 17:47:17

Iam64

My experience is that barristers, especially KCs have the capacity to forensically review evidence and get to the truth, quickly.
Starmer’s genuine commitment to improving safety for women and girls was demonstrated at the CPS. His appointment of Mandelson was at odds with his demonstrated and expressed belief systems.
Was he persuaded by MacSweeny the risks were outweighed by the positives a known Machiavellian liar could use in the Trump Whitehouse?
Disaster for Starmer, the LP and our country. We need stability, we need confidence in our parliament.

Yes and he seems to have overlooked the fact that McSweeney was a protege of Mandelson.

M0nica Tue 10-Feb-26 08:56:26

MacSweeney is merely the scapegoat. This decision to send Mandelson to the USA was a collegiate decision with Starmer in charge.

Iam64 has listed the ualities of a top barrister, which Starmer is. There is no way he can wriggle out of his 100% responsibity for this appointment.

As I said MacSweeney is the patsy taaking the blame. I am sure he has been suitably compensated for walking the plank, and will soon surface in a new well-remunerated job somewhere in leftwing political circles.

Oreo Tue 10-Feb-26 09:07:35

Just what I was thinking too M0nica

Iam64 Wed 11-Feb-26 18:17:51

MOnica is correct, Keir Starmer is entirely responsible for appointing Mandelson.
I don’t believe he ‘forgot’ when appointing MacSweeney that he’d been a protege of Mandelson.
Mandelson seems to have been able to ensure his capacity for manipulation, his numerous significant political and social connections meant potential positives outweighed any risks.

I’m so disappointed. Starmer at the CPS did great work in improving investigations and safety of women and girls.

fancythat Wed 11-Feb-26 18:44:21

^ Keir Starmer is entirely responsible for appointing Mandelson.^

As I keep writing on multiple threads whenever there is a "scandal", he "stands by everyone".

Looks like that is actually going to prove to be the issue that bring him down.

eazybee Wed 11-Feb-26 19:17:29

Rosie Duffield has spoken about the 'Boys' Club Culture ' at No.10. Lisa Nandy has referred to the 'Macho element' which has been a problem in the Labour Party for Years; women are routinely briefed against and there is a sneering culture against those from the North. And this the Labour Party.

Well, Dame Antonia Romeo is to become the first female Cabinet Secretary, and will replace Sir Chris Wormald, set to resign following Mandelson, McSweeney and Tim Allan. Perhaps alarm bells are ringing at last.
A plethora of titles: Dame Antonia, Lord Mandelson, Lord Hermer, Lord Doyle, (sex offender sent to the Lords,) Sir Chris and Sir Keir. All for doing their jobs.

fancythat Wed 11-Feb-26 19:21:22

You could be right,

But he has stood by women as well, in their scandals.
He will stand by anyone.

Until he cant he cant any more.[mandelson].

Rosie51 Wed 11-Feb-26 19:46:39

He will stand by anyone.
Well he definitely didn't stand by Rosie Duffield because she knows what a woman is, and that nobody can change sex and dared to voice that opinion. He didn't even invite her as the only sitting Labour MP in Kent to his launch party for the general election which kicked off in Kent! He distanced himself from her totally and wasn't interested in speaking to her.