Entering the UK- or going to happen now

I wonder if your daughter claimed British Citizenship through double descent for her children? And therefore they also have dual citizenship?
Apologies if this was asked upthread.

nanna8

They have valid up to date Australian passports but they won’t let them in on those. Unbelievable. Check if you don’t believe me, I’m not making it up,

From what I can see, it’s just UK entry rules for British citizens. Annoying, but not unusual. Its just asking the same of you as it does everyone else.

Thank you graphite.
A long and clear explanation.

Ooops Graphite

I m sure I need to buy a visa if I want to visit Australia don’t I?

It's free for visitors.

DaisyAnneReturns

nanna8

They have valid up to date Australian passports but they won’t let them in on those. Unbelievable. Check if you don’t believe me, I’m not making it up,

From what I can see, it’s just UK entry rules for British citizens. Annoying, but not unusual. Its just asking the same of you as it does everyone else.

It is annoying but the reports about it over there and here have been somewhat confusing, I believe.

For people with dual nationality visiting the UK from Australia:
British out, Australian back.

BOAB

Allira

DaisyAnneReturns

nanna8

They have valid up to date Australian passports but they won’t let them in on those. Unbelievable. Check if you don’t believe me, I’m not making it up,

From what I can see, it’s just UK entry rules for British citizens. Annoying, but not unusual. Its just asking the same of you as it does everyone else.

It is annoying but the reports about it over there and here have been somewhat confusing, I believe.

For people with dual nationality visiting the UK from Australia:
British out, Australian back.

BOAB

For my son in Spain, Spanish out, British in, British out, Spanish in.

Hasn't that always been the case Allira? Just to be quicker at either end? I'm pretty sure it's what my family do.

People who need to travel will get this sorted and it will just become part of of life.

DaisyAnneReturns

Hasn't that always been the case Allira? Just to be quicker at either end? I'm pretty sure it's what my family do.

People who need to travel will get this sorted and it will just become part of of life.

Yes, some of mine too, those who can obtain a British passport.
It is more speedy.

nanna8

My grandchildren were born in Australia and have never been to the UK. They are being forced to get uk passports against their will. My daughter rang the British consulate again to check because neither of us could believe it. It’s true. So they have to fork out hundreds of dollars for nothing.

The only way that makes sense is if your daughter applied for British Citizenship for them.

In that case, then it’s the proper thing and if they are angry it should be with their mother.

As has been stated this was announced in 2024. This is not new news, nor is it a punishment.

Nor is it Starmer's 'fault'.

Or am I mistaken that your daughter was born in the UK?

OP said on Saturday that her daughter was born in Britain and her granddaughters’ father in Australia. That’s what gives her GDs dual Australian/British citizenship, the first by birth and the second by descent. It is why, from 26 February 2026, they will need British passports to be allowed to travel from Australia to the UK and be allowed automatic right of entry.

The phased introduction was rolled out to the rest of the world (ex Europe) in Novermber 2024 with a soft transition period allowing dual citizens to continue to use their foreign passports as authorisation to travel (without an ETA). That is what is now coming to an end.

Graphite

OP said on Saturday that her daughter was born in Britain and her granddaughters’ father in Australia. That’s what gives her GDs dual Australian/British citizenship, the first by birth and the second by descent. It is why, from 26 February 2026, they will need British passports to be allowed to travel from Australia to the UK and be allowed automatic right of entry.

The phased introduction was rolled out to the rest of the world (ex Europe) in Novermber 2024 with a soft transition period allowing dual citizens to continue to use their foreign passports as authorisation to travel (without an ETA). That is what is now coming to an end.

So it isn't like Irish where you are entitled but have to apply? Thinking about it my husband's commonwealth country is the same. So my kids are British by birth and entitled to two other nationalities if they apply.

I missed that Graphite, thank you.

Either way this has been on the cards publicly for over a year so shouldn’t be a shock. No one is being punished.

Summerlove

nanna8

My grandchildren were born in Australia and have never been to the UK. They are being forced to get uk passports against their will. My daughter rang the British consulate again to check because neither of us could believe it. It’s true. So they have to fork out hundreds of dollars for nothing.

The only way that makes sense is if your daughter applied for British Citizenship for them.

In that case, then it’s the proper thing and if they are angry it should be with their mother.

As has been stated this was announced in 2024. This is not new news, nor is it a punishment.

They have never applied for British passports and neither has their mother. They don’t want one but are forced to get one. Otherwise they will be refused entry as they only have Australian passports. ,ok, I am getting a bit bored with saying this now. It is unfair and unjust. They are not British, that’s the point.

I am in Canada where the same rule applies. I have dual citizenship and enter the UK with my British passport and return on my Canadian one.
It is a bit of a palaver and indeed costly to keep renewing 2 passports.
I am disappointed to read some unkind comments about ex-pats from posters, some of whom seem unaware that ---
British citizenship applies to all people born in the UK.
Canada and Australia have reciprocal agreements with the UK regarding income tax.
The UK State Pension is frozen on leaving the country and Ex-Pats residing in Canada and Australia do not receive any future increases.
Canadian/Australian citizens with UK dual nationality can only receive free emergency NHS treatment if they are normally residing abroad. They cannot receive free in-patient care.
Around 2 million overseas voters ie British Citizens are now legally entitled to vote but only 137,000 applied for a vote in the last general election. Whether or not they actually voted is another matter of course. Did they apply on time, receive their postal voting paper on time and manage to return their votes early enough?
Thank-you for reading.

British citizenship is not automatic for everyone born in Britain. Their parents status applies.

Nanna8 did they explain how anyone would know they are British or entitled to British citizenship. I can't see how passport control at a British airport could possibly know unless they were registered as an overseas birth or they'd applied for their passport.

I honestly don't believe Britain has the time, money or interest to keep track of births round the world so that they know who could apply for a passport.

If it is law that people who could get British citizenship have to if they want to travel here then it is very poorly thought out as it just isn't workable.

I'm still puzzled as to why the grandchildren need - or even have the right to - a British passport.

My sons cannot pass their nationality on to their offspring. I had to apply for British nationality for them (my sons) when they were born. On the basis of the info in this thread I have told them that they need to present their British passports on entering the UK. They have all kept their passports up to date, so that is no problem.

My husband only has a German passport. My sons' wives only have German passports. So, as far as I can tell, their wives and children will need an ETA with their German passports if they travel to the UK.

If the grandchildren are "forced" to get British passports through their tenuous connection to the UK, (through me), how far back does this go? I think there was a Frenchwoman somewhere back in my genealogy in the 18th century. should I be applying for a French passport?

I’m puzzled too but that is what the British consul told us. How would they know that their mother was British born ? Apparently they do, which is a worry in itself. As I said before and this time I’ll shout it , they are being FORCED to have passports they don’t want. Would you risk travelling for 24 hours and then being sent back ? I wouldn’t. So they will obey. Me, I just won’t go there anymore , too far anyway, too dangerous these days according to our ‘travel warnings ‘

Ah! Their mother was "British born". My son's were not born British; I had to register their births at the Embassy. There may be a difference.

This what we are informed before travelling to the uk these days!

And those travel warnings (on the Australian pages to en at the beginning of this thread) are BS!

JackyB

Ah! Their mother was "British born". My son's were not born British; I had to register their births at the Embassy. There may be a difference.

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