Trump posts racist video of the Obamas

This forum is unlike most in that there’s very few deletions.

Regularly seen on this forum? No it isn’t, there isn’t any racism on this forum in the few years I’ve been on it.
If it was like that in the past then it isn’t now.

Meandrogrog

Wyllow3

Meandrogrog I have seen it and heard it. Heard it in front of me. Heavy duty patronising is one example. Subtle exlusding people from groups another.

The full on racism that we are discussing in the O/P is one extreme - much of the time its subtle, carelessly thrown in, almost without thought.

Assumptions about what people will be like or their feelings are without actually engaging with anyone. it's happening all the time.

I have talked to people from different cultural origins who have grown up with it all their life.

...and its often the people who don't think. they are racist, becauase they cant "See" or "Hear" it, that are the hardest to deal with.

Just read this page.

www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=how+everyday+racism+is+so+subtle+we+dont+notice+it&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I admit and own some of these memes: it costs little to self examine and think, "oh, so that is racism.

O MG. Where did that article come from! Never would I or anyone I see or hear ever say anything like the quotes in the article. I wont even repeat them here as I would feel too ashamed to type the words, even though it is to rebut them.

Then you haven’t been paying attention. Racism of the type outlined in the article is regularly seen on this forum.

Fallingstar

We should also look at the human side of this. The Obamas may be used to the harsh realities of political life, but to see something like this must have hit them to the core, without even imagining how it must have affected their children.
Also it will have offended and upset countless black people in the US including a black Republican politician.
This isn’t just another ridiculous thing Trump has done, it has affected so many actual people. And we need to keep that in mind imho, the human side of this monstrous racist image.

I don't know, none of us do. The Obamas seen like decent, educated, respectful people and the adult children look as if they are doing well.

Inspite of this vile stuff.

WhiteWave, I think that is why they are so worried about the mid terms.
So many recent Democrat wins, at all levels of Government.

Wyllow3

Meandrogrog I have seen it and heard it. Heard it in front of me. Heavy duty patronising is one example. Subtle exlusding people from groups another.

The full on racism that we are discussing in the O/P is one extreme - much of the time its subtle, carelessly thrown in, almost without thought.

Assumptions about what people will be like or their feelings are without actually engaging with anyone. it's happening all the time.

I have talked to people from different cultural origins who have grown up with it all their life.

...and its often the people who don't think. they are racist, becauase they cant "See" or "Hear" it, that are the hardest to deal with.

Just read this page.

www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=how+everyday+racism+is+so+subtle+we+dont+notice+it&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I admit and own some of these memes: it costs little to self examine and think, "oh, so that is racism.

O MG. Where did that article come from! Never would I or anyone I see or hear ever say anything like the quotes in the article. I wont even repeat them here as I would feel too ashamed to type the words, even though it is to rebut them.

Approve 39%

Disapprove 59%

What makes interesting reading are the state by state approval ratings.

A total of 5 states mildly approve.
2 strongly approve and 3 are in between.
10 states in total

Every other state disapproves with eastern and far western states - as you’d expect very strongly disapproving, but there is a surprising level of disapproval in traditional red states.

The mid-terms are not looking good for Trump🤞🤞

It is astonishing how popular he still is.
It is heartening that he is not as popular as he was before his election.

DT is still amazingly popular in the US and he still has three years to run, he won’t be able to stand for a third time.
As for a mini Trump here, if that means Farage ( Boris used to be called that) then Labour will have to up its game massively for it not to happen.As will the Conservatives.

What is heartening to understand, is that Trump’s racism alongside his immigration action - the two go side by side - has meant that his poll ratings are falling like a stone in the USA. Even republicans are beginning to feel decidedly queasy and MAGA are also beginning to reject his racism.

The apologists for his racism are looking very isolated.

I very much hope that people in the U.K. are beginning to understand the consequences of voting in a mini-Trump.

We should also look at the human side of this. The Obamas may be used to the harsh realities of political life, but to see something like this must have hit them to the core, without even imagining how it must have affected their children.
Also it will have offended and upset countless black people in the US including a black Republican politician.
This isn’t just another ridiculous thing Trump has done, it has affected so many actual people. And we need to keep that in mind imho, the human side of this monstrous racist image.

Meandrogrog I have seen it and heard it. Heard it in front of me. Heavy duty patronising is one example. Subtle exlusding people from groups another.

The full on racism that we are discussing in the O/P is one extreme - much of the time its subtle, carelessly thrown in, almost without thought.

Assumptions about what people will be like or their feelings are without actually engaging with anyone. it's happening all the time.

I have talked to people from different cultural origins who have grown up with it all their life.

...and its often the people who don't think. they are racist, becauase they cant "See" or "Hear" it, that are the hardest to deal with.

Just read this page.

www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=how+everyday+racism+is+so+subtle+we+dont+notice+it&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I admit and own some of these memes: it costs little to self examine and think, "oh, so that is racism.

I just think the whole thing is disgraceful. The president of the US sent out a video mocking those in opposition. It was peevish childishness from a man with so much power.
He is so immature and he has always been racist.

Meandrogrog, in ordinary everyday life I don’t often see it either, thank goodness. But then I don’t witness knife crime yet I live in London where it is rife, I see it on the news all the time and so know it is happening.
And am sure if I asked some of my Asian and black neighbours I would probably get a very different story about how racism does happen more than I am aware of.
Being unaware of something or seeing no evidence of it in our lives doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

Wyllow3

Racism has always been with us Meandrogrog. It's part of human life and is a necessary term to use when describing events and political stances. But really....

what on earth else do you expect but the frequent use of the word, given that it is not just 'mentioned" in the O/P, but the whole thread is about Racism as a topic

What do you want us to do, talk about the wet weather instead, or pretend we dont notice when people put others down or make assumptions about individuals based on their race and cultural backgrounds?

I have never noticed any racism, in my experience people are treated well by others whatever their ethnicity. I quite simply do not see the racism anywhere that you are quoting.

It’s permissible in any circumstances Fallingstar just as threads on the price of onions are always permissible.
I’m never reluctant to engage in any discussion but can see why some people may groan when they see certain threads, that’s their prerogative isn’t it.
Also some prefer to just write a couple of lines and other posters enjoy writing very long discourses on a subject, we all contribute in our own way.
I never expect to be agreed with on any thread as I simply put my own thoughts on any matter and it’s indifferent to me .
I read what others say as a matter of interest.

It is racist and because it is and Trump knows that it is, it has been taken down and a staff member has been blamed for it being posted in the first place.

I don’t think people see racism everywhere, the fact is this is a thread on racism so it so bound to be discussed, members are hardly likely to come on a thread like this and discuss the price of onions, but if there is a thread on the price of onions you can be sure nobody will be discussing racism.
And am not politically to the left, have voted Tory in my time though not for a very long time. Calling out racism goes right across the board, or should do.
And of course there needs to be a political solution sought to the levels of illegal immigration but if in discussing this racist tropes emerge of course they will be challenged.
Am really not sure why some members are so reluctant to engage in discussions regarding racism and quick to dismiss those taking part.
Am just wondering in what kind of circumstances they feel a discussion on racism is permissible. Certainly their criteria seems rather restrictive.

That would be interesting esmay, to discover what they thought of the post.

And people still admire him?

Anyway, Trump became aware of the backlash. Maybe in his demented mind he thought folk would agree with him?
Like the moral coward he is, he had it taken down, and with his usual lack of courage, blamed someone else.

They just don’t see it everywhere.

They don’t.

Why do some Posters persist in attempting to deny that racism exists?

Meandrogrog I know exactly what you mean.