How long can Starmer survive? Getting popcorn ready 🍿🍿

MayBee70

fancythat

MayBee70

fancythat

Oh. Going to write the same on here as another thread.

Could all the local elections get cancelled?

Who on earth would they stop all the local elections? Starmer isn’t Trump.

Because they dont fancy knowing the results!

This is delusional. On top of the fact that, as people on here have explained, there is a reason for the cancellation of some council elections, the government can’t just cancel a council election because they’re scared of losing. Look what happened when Johnson tried to prorogue parliament.

This is being discussed on another n&p thread,

Smileless2012

I don't honestly think he can hold on indefinitely; it's just a matter of time now and the only question is how long can he stay.

I agree.

Lame duck?

fancythat

MayBee70

fancythat

Oh. Going to write the same on here as another thread.

Could all the local elections get cancelled?

Who on earth would they stop all the local elections? Starmer isn’t Trump.

Because they dont fancy knowing the results!

This is delusional. On top of the fact that, as people on here have explained, there is a reason for the cancellation of some council elections, the government can’t just cancel a council election because they’re scared of losing. Look what happened when Johnson tried to prorogue parliament.

Smileless2012

I don't honestly think he can hold on indefinitely; it's just a matter of time now and the only question is how long can he stay.

Well as someone once said ‘a week is a long time in politics’

Or talks. I wonder if the Government actually called them "crisis" talks?

I don't honestly think he can hold on indefinitely; it's just a matter of time now and the only question is how long can he stay.

Casdon

Is it silly Tuesday today? The cabinet routinely meets on Tuesday mornings whilst parliament is sitting. Of course they will be discussing the events of the last week, but it’s their normal meeting day, not an extra, crisis meeting.

The sense of disappointment that KS did not go yesterday is palpable isn’t it? Some are clinging onto the hope that maybe today ……

Is it silly Tuesday today? The cabinet routinely meets on Tuesday mornings whilst parliament is sitting. Of course they will be discussing the events of the last week, but it’s their normal meeting day, not an extra, crisis meeting.

Breaking News

Cabinet assemble for Crisis Talks

foxie48

I live in a two tier Local authority and totally understand why it needs to be reorganised, the current system is wasteful and confusing. FWIW The 63 LAs that are undergoing reorganisation were asked to decide whether to postpone their elections in 2026, 29 wanted to postpone and two thirds of those are currently labour controlled. The vast majority of the 136 LAs will go ahead with elections. Frankly to go ahead with elections in those LAs that are reorganising IMO is wasting public money at a time when the LAs are already struggling with debt as a result of the 14 years of austerity under the Tories.

Thanks foxie48, that really gives perspective to the whole operation.

foxie48

I live in a two tier Local authority and totally understand why it needs to be reorganised, the current system is wasteful and confusing. FWIW The 63 LAs that are undergoing reorganisation were asked to decide whether to postpone their elections in 2026, 29 wanted to postpone and two thirds of those are currently labour controlled. The vast majority of the 136 LAs will go ahead with elections. Frankly to go ahead with elections in those LAs that are reorganising IMO is wasting public money at a time when the LAs are already struggling with debt as a result of the 14 years of austerity under the Tories.

I absolutely agree - I also live in a two tier authority - Conservative CC and Lib Dem DC. It would have been an expensive distraction to have elections this year. I’m glad my councils made the decision not to. I’m looking forward to the new system

I live in a two tier Local authority and totally understand why it needs to be reorganised, the current system is wasteful and confusing. FWIW The 63 LAs that are undergoing reorganisation were asked to decide whether to postpone their elections in 2026, 29 wanted to postpone and two thirds of those are currently labour controlled. The vast majority of the 136 LAs will go ahead with elections. Frankly to go ahead with elections in those LAs that are reorganising IMO is wasting public money at a time when the LAs are already struggling with debt as a result of the 14 years of austerity under the Tories.

You must have been looking in the wrong place Primrose53, because apart from the cabinet, the Tribune Group of MPs also backed him, and they are very influential.

I noticed messages of support for Starmer yesterday from junior Labour members but none from senior members that I could see.

I also saw a couple of them were asked by reporters if they had been TOLD to send messages because they were all sent within minutes of each other. Neither answered the question but waffled on about other stuff. The timing made me think they were instructed to send supportive messages as they were all similarly worded.
I think Starmer is on borrowed time.

MayBee70

fancythat

Oh. Going to write the same on here as another thread.

Could all the local elections get cancelled?

Who on earth would they stop all the local elections? Starmer isn’t Trump.

Because they dont fancy knowing the results!

Oreo

He survived yesterday but that’s likely to be that the upcoming local elections in May could be bad for Labour and a new PM wouldn’t want that on his watch, so they’ll let him stay for now and wait to see what happens.

I think Starmer will get a stay of execution until then. He clearly is going to cling on for as long as possible. He even put a spanner in the works for clearing the way for Andy Burnham to contest a seat which would give him a shot at any leadership race. It concerns me greatly that the many issues that need to be addressed in our country are simmering away on the back burner while he gallivants around the world and has his mind occupied on surviving the Epstein mess.

fancythat

Oh. Going to write the same on here as another thread.

Could all the local elections get cancelled?

Who on earth would they stop all the local elections? Starmer isn’t Trump.

No, most of them will be happening but some can be cancelled due to boundary changes.

Oh. Going to write the same on here as another thread.

Could all the local elections get cancelled?

He survived yesterday but that’s likely to be that the upcoming local elections in May could be bad for Labour and a new PM wouldn’t want that on his watch, so they’ll let him stay for now and wait to see what happens.

The merits and demerits of Brexit weren’t presented well by either side at the time.

Starmer isn’t in a shaky position now solely because of the Mandelson debacle but rather a whole raft of poor decisions making him really unpopular.

Perhaps you've not heard of Cambtidge Analytica and the 'dark' adverts, Galaxy?

In a democracy information should be available to all 'sides'. Then it can be debated openly.

Of course they’re not! Farage and his colleagues would be disastrous for the UK.

Thankfully, that isn’t going to happen. Even if KS is replaced, there will not be a general election until it’s due.

MayBee70

Bet you can’t wait for him to be PM …

No need for that but anybody is better than Starmer.

There was every opportunity for the remain side to present their argument well ( they didnt), a significant section of the population have been trying to get their message over for over a decade now, not listening has made everything about a hundred times worse.
I am also not keen on this whole 'but you will get Farage' narrative ( this isn't aimed at you maizie or any particular individual) but I don't want to vote for the labour party ( which now appears to hold some values alien to me) just because they are not Farage. That isn't enough.