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How long can Starmer survive? Getting popcorn ready šŸæšŸæ

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Primrose53 Thu 05-Feb-26 09:13:52

It seems not very long at all! What an absolute mess he has got himself into with this Mandelson business on top of all his U turns.

He now has to release everything he knows about Mandelson and Epstein. Kemi Badendoch absolutely roasted him yesterday and his Ministers could not look at him. As usual he looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

On top of all this, Angela Rayner (who still has not sorted out her tax ā€œmistakeā€) is waiting in the wings. 😱 She is loving all this and ready to stab him in the back and I bet he regrets supporting her and saying how wonderful she is when she was in trouble.

Casdon Fri 13-Feb-26 13:49:42

Yes, I suspect it’s just you, i don’t get why you think polls happen at all if you don’t think people look at them? It would be completely pointless them existing if that was the case.

Galaxy Fri 13-Feb-26 13:38:17

I always think of cults as quite a niche thing grinbut maybe that's just me.

Doodledog Fri 13-Feb-26 13:26:35

Galaxy

It is quite a big cult looking at the opinion polls.

Exactly. So showing an interest in stories about him is hardly 'obsessive' is it? I'm not sure of your point either.

Casdon Fri 13-Feb-26 13:10:29

Well yes Galaxy, I’m not sure what you mean, as that is why polls exist?

Galaxy Fri 13-Feb-26 12:54:47

It is quite a big cult looking at the opinion polls.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 12:53:49

Doodledog

I am far from obsessed with Farage, but we keep being told that he will be the next PM, so of course it is interesting to find out more about his behaviour - particularly when he criticises others.

Precisely. He and his party ( when Farage and Tice are actually in this country others deputise for them when they’ve left their previous parties) are asked their opinion on just about everything as if they are a government in waiting. Farage has the sort of cult following that enabled Trump to regain the presidency. And he stands for everything I abhor.

Doodledog Fri 13-Feb-26 08:19:07

I am far from obsessed with Farage, but we keep being told that he will be the next PM, so of course it is interesting to find out more about his behaviour - particularly when he criticises others.

fancythat Fri 13-Feb-26 07:32:29

It is.

Some are fearful.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 13-Feb-26 07:27:14

Oreo

Farage isn’t in power, it’s Starmer that’s PM.

GN seems rather obsessed with Mr Farage…

ronib Fri 13-Feb-26 07:13:54

Same happened with Boris Johnson. End of story….

David49 Fri 13-Feb-26 07:09:09

MayBee70

It was Starmer who got them into power…

That was in 2024, MPs are now looking at what will get them re elected next time do they can stay on the gravy train.

They don't think it's Starmer

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 00:38:04

It was Starmer who got them into power…

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 22:20:27

The LP have waited too long to be in power to allow Starmer to ruin everything.He just can’t be in place for the next election so he needs to go damn soon for the good of the Party, Reeves too.

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 22:18:23

I think a lot of people in the LP are unhappy with Starmer and Reeves’ performance but looks like we’ll have to wait a couple of months. They aren’t delivering either!

Casdon Thu 12-Feb-26 21:39:55

Yes Wyllow, he hasn’t been delivering, I heard he was likely going about a month ago. I think that’s why the press aren’t so interested.

Wyllow3 Thu 12-Feb-26 21:29:40

That's actually been on the cards for some time, however.

"The Cabinet Office said the move was "by mutual agreement" but it follows months of negative media reports suggesting Downing Street was unhappy with his performance".

(BBC I player news)

Primrose53 Thu 12-Feb-26 20:46:56

Oreo

I enjoy a bit of popcorn šŸæ and now there’s a Number Ten drama to go with it. It’s not over yet…

Another one bites the dust ……. Civil Service Chief, Chris Wormald gone today! After just 14 months in the job. šŸæ

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 20:34:13

Farage isn’t in power, it’s Starmer that’s PM.

MayBee70 Thu 12-Feb-26 19:35:20

Galaxy

Oh good on this issue then the labour party has the same standards as Farage then, what a triumph

The point is that Farage is never in danger of losing his leadership of his party no matter what he says or does. And the news media isn’t desperate to see him lose it, either. Why?

Galaxy Thu 12-Feb-26 19:26:12

Oh good on this issue then the labour party has the same standards as Farage then, what a triumph

Wyllow3 Thu 12-Feb-26 19:18:25

I think its time to put the popcorn away as regards Starmer and re-open a pack on how much Farage knew.

This thread continues to to try and "name and blame" Starmer as the sole "offender" when as more and more results in the USA - and the UK in terms of Prince Andrew and friends - make it clear the tentacles are incredibly far reaching but also concealed by the hundreds of powerful and mostly men.

I have my reservations about Starmer being the best person to lead the Labour Party but despite Badenhoch's efforts, this is not the issue that sparks my concerns, nor his international diplomatic efforts for the UK, but domestic management of the economy on a number of issues.

About time to stick to what really matters - and its not trying to hang draw and quarter Starmer for this issue,

As it becomes obvious that the most significant figure on the far right, Farage, also thought it a good appointment.

I have searched and searched (and searched) for a Badenhoch comment at the actual time of the appointment of Mandelson - I have found none.

It appears to be all in retrospect. I'd welcome any proof at all that she revealed anything whatsoever - unease, dodgy connections - at the time of the appointment

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 16:59:56

I enjoy a bit of popcorn šŸæ and now there’s a Number Ten drama to go with it. It’s not over yet…

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 16:58:03

DaisyAnneReturns

Casdon

She doesn’t have the ability to pin him, or anybody else down, she is sort of head girly in her approach I think, she always gives people the chance to waffle rather than hitting the nail on the head.

The (old-fashioned) head girl picture of KB sums her up well. However, I think she is also a very manipulate person who would be happy to throw others to the wolves to stop them seeming more capable than her and, I would guess, claim any success as her own.

Most Ministers seem able to do that, and Starmer has certainly thrown McSweeney to the wolves.

MayBee70 Thu 12-Feb-26 14:26:02

This not only shows that Farage didn’t see Mandelson as a problem but also shows what strong links he has with the most despicable president that America has ever had. But hey, it’s just water off a ducks back. No matter what the man says or does nothing sticks….

AGAA4 Thu 12-Feb-26 14:18:10

Maybe bin the popcorn and get something that may last a bit longer like sour lemons.