British Indians still aborting baby girls in UK

theworriedwell

Allira my Consultant was fine with my decision. I'd had my 3rd baby at 36, he offered amnio and I declined and said it was a waste of NHS resources as I was keeping the baby. He said not to worry about his budget, if it would help me to know in advance if there were problems. I said it wouldn't. The midwife who was with him told me they'd be there to support Mr whatever happened, she'd hold my hand through the amnio if I was worried or she'd be there if there was a problem when baby was born
They were lovely, I was due to see the Consultant but he was dealing with an emergency so I saw this young doctor. I was so upset and crying. Who do they think they are to.try to bully a woman into an abortion. The way he said were running out of time for the abortion when he didn't know if there was a problem.

So sorry you had that experience.

I was annoyed rather than upset, but he did rather put the wind up me!

Summerlove

sundowngirl

When is the baby’s gender determined? Is it at the 20 week scan? Although still legal for medical reasons it is very late in pregnancy and reasons for requesting a termination should be investigated thoroughly. I would imagine the majority of terminations for other reasons are carried out in the early stages of pregnancy.
I agree with abortion being the woman’s choice but I think the current cut off is far too late.

If you agree to a cut off at all, then you do not in fact view it as the woman’s choice.

My grandson was born at 28 weeks and although small he was a perfectly formed baby and is now a thriving 10 year old. I do not agree that women should have a choice after the 24 weeks point of viability.

"sundowngirl

When is the baby’s gender determined? Is it at the 20 week scan? Although still legal for medical reasons it is very late in pregnancy and reasons for requesting a termination should be investigated thoroughly. I would imagine the majority of terminations for other reasons are carried out in the early stages of pregnancy.
I agree with abortion being the woman’s choice but I think the current cut off is far too late.

If you agree to a cut off at all, then you do not in fact view it as the woman’s choice."

I concur

Medieval. The sooner it dies out with succeeding generations, (which it will) the better.

Late abortions are only carried out in extreme circumstances.
If a foetus is incompatible with life due to physical or mental circumstances.
I have never needed to have an abortion indeed it took mt 9 pregnancies that ended naturally by miscarriage or birth to bring home two babies one of whom was born 3months early.However I support any woman faced with the tragedy of a late abortion or losing her own life y continuing with a pregnancy that would lead to suffering and/or death for the baby due to severe health problems.
Surely any woman who has had to deal with this deserves support and sympathy not judgement .
I despair when I see women with closed minds who can’t see the mental anguish behind the choice of many if not most abortions .Whatever the reason may be .

Surely any woman who has had to deal with this deserves support and sympathy not judgement

I don't think posters are saying that at all.

Summerlove

sundowngirl

When is the baby’s gender determined? Is it at the 20 week scan? Although still legal for medical reasons it is very late in pregnancy and reasons for requesting a termination should be investigated thoroughly. I would imagine the majority of terminations for other reasons are carried out in the early stages of pregnancy.
I agree with abortion being the woman’s choice but I think the current cut off is far too late.

If you agree to a cut off at all, then you do not in fact view it as the woman’s choice.

I agree. Unless abortion is given to anyone who asks, for any reason they see fit, then other people (usually men) are taking decisions for women.

I am not saying that I would be happy with allowing late terminations for all reasons, but I don't understand the difference between allowing them for disability or inconvenience and not for sex. In the end, it should be the woman who has the final word, and the people around her should be educated about the implications of coercing her into aborting girl babies. I agree that it is immoral, but so is coercing a woman to give birth to an unwanted child who may be mistreated, along with the woman herself.

Fgs there's no evidence whatsoever that anyone is having late abortions for singular reason that they're unhappy with the sex of the foetus. You can pay for a private blood test at 6 weeks which is 99% accurate in determining gender. An abortion by pill is possible up to 11 weeks. The whole of

The whole of this article is based on a small gender imbalance over a five year period ending in 2021.

So as women, we shouldn’t be concerned that this is happening here in the UK.
I don’t think so!
It should concern everyone that an abhorrent practice of killing an unborn foetus for reasons of being the wrong sex is happening.No matter what the percentage and it isn’t tiny and it’s only the ones known about.

foxie48

The whole of this article is based on a small gender imbalance over a five year period ending in 2021.

The practice didn’t end in 2021!

Oreo please don't put a spin on my posts which misinterprets them. I have already said up thread that abortion purely on the basis is illegal but as yet no one has provided proper evidence that it is being carried out.

Basis of gender.

Most abortion carried out is for reasons that it is a foetus of any sex.

There is a lot of double standards going on in this thread.

Whitewavemark2

Most abortion carried out is for reasons that it is a foetus of any sex.

There is a lot of double standards going on in this thread.

I agree. Surely the headline should be changed when the inaccuracy of it has been shown.

Maremia

Morris dancing gets its name from the Spanish word 'morisco', and the form may have been imported from the continent.
Good to see that we are happy to absorb other cultures into our own.
The participants used to be in 'blackface' for some reason, now lost to history.

Never heard of the Coconutters of Bacup?
Still alive and dancing.
They blacked up their faces for a totally different reason that had nothing to do with ethnicity.

I just looked it up. 3,124 abortions were carried out due to abnormalities in England and Wales in 2022. In the same year there were 251,000+ abortions in total.

And the article used as a basis for this thread is based on a gender imbalance of 400 live births over a five year period!

As far as I can see in the last figures available, 98% of abortions were carried out under "ground C" of the legal grounds available, i.e., " Continuation of pregnancy involves greater risk to the woman’s physical or mental health than termination (and under 24 weeks)"

This backs the view for bodily autonomy which British women of all ethnicities share. Who knows what reasoning was in the minds of any of those 98%?

It is perfectly ok to discuss reasons for abortion which may concern us whilst still supporting a womans right to choose.

Which is what people are doing?

I think it gets a bit muddy when you try to explore things like this, it did when labour introduced the last legislation on abortion. I don't actually agree with the statement for example that if you agree to a cut off at all you disagree with a womans right to choose.

Appreciated, but others have their own opinions, which they were discussing, surely that is acceptable?

Yes that's what I am doing too

I am really fascinated if people actually think that no cut off is ok. That to me seems almost a reflex response to a perceived threat to all abortion rights.