Meghan Markle’s father, Thomas, is in intensive care seriously ill.

Ah, so it is all Thomas's fault.

merlotgran

Doria was no paragon during Meghan’s teenage years. Describing yourself as a free spirit and buggering off leaving all the responsibilities and challenges behind you is hardly praiseworthy.

Is that what she did? I always got a different impression but I don't follow the story very much.

Doria was no paragon during Meghan’s teenage years. Describing yourself as a free spirit and buggering off leaving all the responsibilities and challenges behind you is hardly praiseworthy.

There is no acknowledgement on this thread about Meghan’s siblings also having estrangement and divorce at the heart of their lives. Samantha is apparently estranged from both her own daughter, and Thomas junior has had two bitter divorces. They are all the children of their father.

Allira

It is just strange that a husband, both familes, friends and a considerable number of staff have all been abandoned and left bewildered over a few years and there is one person at the centre of all this hurt.

Once is happenstance

Twice is coincidence

Three times is enemy action

A maxim that has always served me well………..

Meghan had the fairy tale wedding, although the Prince turned out to be a frog, but her marriage brought her, initially at least, , status, privilege, connections, opportunities and wealth.
They have managed to hold on to most of the wealth but have squandered the rest.
I do wonder why, from the beginning of the marriage, when she gained so much, Meghan froze out her family, then proceeded to do the same with Harry's family.
We know she 'misrepresents ' and 'misremembers'things; possibly Thomas Markle may have done likewise.

I am curious about what it is in her psyche that makes her behave so badly.

It is just strange that a husband, both familes, friends and a considerable number of staff have all been abandoned and left bewildered over a few years and there is one person at the centre of all this hurt.

Megan and Harry started their relationship 2016, engaged 2017, Megan spent Christmas 2017 with the Royal Family at Sandringham, married May 2018

We know of TM being photographed re a wedding suit.
When else in that period did he manipulate the media?

Possibly, GrannyGravy although I did read somewhere that the DM journalist is a very old friend of Thomas Markle, someone he knew before she worked for the DM.

I wonder if the DM is picking up Thomas Markle’s bills. Hospitals in the Philippines are not cheap?

Casdon

Allira

Good grief!

Manipulative or just desperate and wondering what he ever did wrong that was so bad his much loved daughter cut him off?
If anyone is manipulative it is Meghan.
Strange that both sides of the family has been cut off so publicly.

Those children are going to have difficult lives without being innocent pawns in this saga too.
This has all been manufactured by Meghan and a not-very-bright Harry.

He is manipulative Allira, sorry to say. He is not the innocent victim people are trying to portray on this thread. I’m not defending Meghan, she is his child, and they behave in a similar way. I can’t believe anybody would think involving children of 6 and 4 in this situation is healthy for them. Why isn’t everybody putting them first is my question.

And neither is Meghan, I'm sorry to say.
Unfortunately, it is difficult to form a positive opinion of her.

To me, Meghan has always been ashamed and embarrassed by her family (apart from Doria), since she took up with Harry.

Also worried about them spilling the beans on some of the dubious stuff about her former life.

She never had any intention of them coming to the wedding, which is why ‘her’ side consisted of Hollywood stars and celebrities who she wanted to get ‘on side’ ready for the future.

Otherwise, why on earth would she not have had Dad and Harry meeting before the big day? What a photo op that would have been, Thomas and Harry smiling away at each other, shaking hands, sharing a bonding moment, with Meg beaming away on the sidelines.

They didn’t have to keep the meetings up, but that would have silenced the gossip. And then when Tom couldn’t make the big day, how regretful that would have seemed.

However, Mr Markle last night said he has not heard from Meghan 'but would love to speak to her'.

He said: 'Of course I want to speak to her but I am not sure if these are the right circumstances.

'I've always said I am open to reconciling with my daughter. I have never stopped loving her. I don't want to die estranged from Meghan. I want to meet my grandkids. It might be nice to meet her husband too.'

Sounds reasonable, he has said it before several times,

Yes, he has Anniebach.
From the horse’s mouth.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15360281/estranged-Meghan-Harry-Thomas-Markle-hospital.html

LemonJam

Factually the DM reporter is there- see Casdons's Sky news link and the DM articles. It would be much better if not there and just gossip but the reporter is directly feeding back to DM as TM requested. BlessedArt- agree with you- unbelievable a parent would do that....TM is accountable for his decisions as are we all...

That’s awful smh

Has TM asked to see his grandchildren now he is hospital ? surely he has spoken of them before the amputation,
so difficult to believe any comments from Megan, so many lies
from her

I don’t think the children are involved in any way.
They will have no idea what is happening.
They have probably not been told anything about their maternal family apart from Grandmother, they do not exist for them.
Paternal family is another matter, when your Grandfather is a King ……

Allira

Good grief!

Manipulative or just desperate and wondering what he ever did wrong that was so bad his much loved daughter cut him off?
If anyone is manipulative it is Meghan.
Strange that both sides of the family has been cut off so publicly.

Those children are going to have difficult lives without being innocent pawns in this saga too.
This has all been manufactured by Meghan and a not-very-bright Harry.

He is manipulative Allira, sorry to say. He is not the innocent victim people are trying to portray on this thread. I’m not defending Meghan, she is his child, and they behave in a similar way. I can’t believe anybody would think involving children of 6 and 4 in this situation is healthy for them. Why isn’t everybody putting them first is my question.

TM reached out to a journalist, Megan to Tom Bradbury whilst visiting S.A.

Good grief!

Manipulative or just desperate and wondering what he ever did wrong that was so bad his much loved daughter cut him off?
If anyone is manipulative it is Meghan.
Strange that both sides of the family has been cut off so publicly.

Those children are going to have difficult lives without being innocent pawns in this saga too.
This has all been manufactured by Meghan and a not-very-bright Harry.

3 manipulating children

A manipulative sick elderly man with a manipulative family is at the heart of it. All round, they are all the masters and victims of this situation. It’s too late to play happy families, particularly by dragging young children into the family dynamics. Those children are going to have difficult lives without being innocent pawns in this saga too.

Thomas Markle has been friends with Caroline Graham, the Mail on Sunday journalist for years apparently. They met through work, became friends, despite the difference in ages.

The journalist lives in America and was shocked to receive an early morning phone call from him from his hospital bed to say he’d had a limb amputated.
Apparently he had phoned her before his son.

She then jumped on a plane and flew to the Philippines.
Obviously as a journalist she had realised that she had a world exclusive on her hands, but Thomas had chosen to phone her.

The whole Thomas/Meghan saga is very strange in many ways.
What has always puzzled me is how he didn’t see through the paparazzi lies when they contacted him to ‘improve his public image’
He wasn’t an inexperienced country hick, he’d worked in the films industry all his life as a lighting director. How did he not see through the nonsense of the stunts the paparazzi came up with?
Then there’s Harry. Why did he never meet his father-in-law?
Why has Meghan steadfastly refused to have any contact with him since the wedding?

It’s all so sad, and at the heart of it is a very sick elderly man desperate to see the daughter he still loves and to finally see the grandchildren he has never met.

When Meghan first cut contact with her siblings and father, I gave her the benefit of the doubt and assumed she had good reason to but when she and Harry cut with his family and started issuing all those personal details, I decided it was a Meghan problem and that weak Harry is easily led.

I have always found it unbelievable that Meghan Markle has behaved the way she has (from the minute she met Harry) to her father, her siblings, her friends and to the royal family.
I have some sympathy for Thomas Markle.