Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

We don't know if these are lies or misinformation Oreo. This was reported at the time.

Don't know what's happened to my post @ 16.36 so have contacted GNHQ .

All anyone has to do is google "Did the Israeli government know that there would be an attack on 07/10?" and there are lots of reports from reliable media sources that address this question. Posters on GN are not committing "calumny" there are just well informed and questioning what the Israeli government knew prior to 07/10. Oreo you may find this upsetting but I'm afraid you won't stop the speculation and as the Israelis aren't open to independent scrutiny, the specualtion will continue.

No, posters here are not ‘well informed’ they are simply repeating conspiracy theories from those who dislike Israel and Jews or NB.
It’s one thing to feel sympathy for Palestinian people but another unpleasant other to feed the conspiracy of either it was allowed to happen ‘on purpose’ or that somehow Israel deserved it by quoting history.

What makes you think that the women who were on watch and reported over several days that they had witnessed 'unusual activity' at the border but their reports were ignored, dislike Israel and Jews or NB Oreo?

I have not seen anyone on GN even suggest that somehow Israel deserved it by quoting history. Do you have an example?

There are hundreds of examples if you look for them.It’s not actually stated but implied by the wording such as ‘oh well if you push Palestinians so far what can you expect’ and suchlike.
Who’s talking about female watchers? The conspiracy theories are spread online by hamas ( yes they have or had PR) and their supporters and all who hate the Israeli government or BN or just Jews.
It’s not unknown.

Anybody interested in Syria, Iraq ,
Nigeria and other places where jihadist groups are committing mass killings? They dont get the same headlines.
Meanwhile have you seen the mountain of food supplies left in Gaza? Hamas aren't interested in Palestinians being fed. They are fooling everyone.

The articles that I read quoted the women who'd been on watch Oreo because they'd been interviewed.

Recognising the way Palestinians have been treated by Israel and how that can give rise to some supporting terrorists is not suggesting that somehow Israel deserved it by quoting history.

No one deserves to be subjected to the horrors carried out by Hamas and I haven't seen anyone on GN imply that there was any justification for that attack.

You could start a thread about Syria, Iraq, Nigeria and other places nodramahere, this thread is about the genocide in Gaza.

No, I haven't seen the mountain of food supplies left in Gaza, where in Gaza are they?

Smileless2012

You could start a thread about Syria, Iraq, Nigeria and other places nodramahere, this thread is about the genocide in Gaza.

No, I haven't seen the mountain of food supplies left in Gaza, where in Gaza are they?

It's a claim made by Gov.il, Smileless, which is a website of the Israeli Government. Pictures of happy, healthy people buying fresh food, cakes, etc in the markets. 🤔
So not to be trusted for proven factual information.

Thank you for sharing that Allira .

Are we done with cruel conspiracy theories now?

Yes, thanks for that Allira.

What cruel conspiracy theories Oreo?

No conspiracy theories cruel or otherwise. Just questions that need answering.
Cruelty is what is being seen daily in Gaza by Israel on the Palestinians.

4 UNICEF food trucks stolen in Northern Gaza on 19th September.

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TBH WWM I dread to think what will happen to them.

There's been no care for them so far so I can't see that they're going to be provided with adequate living conditions, food, medical provision and schools for the children .

It's been reported that the camps are so full that newcomers are sitting at the side of the road with no tents or enough food. Sanitation is very inadequate and people are falling ill.
People have been promised aid when they arrive but it's not happening.

The Palestinians are being crammed into 13% of Gaza now. Many of the other camps have been flattened. Two children were killed by a bomb on their tent a few days ago. BBC news.

A criteria of genocide is to remove medical care, food, clean water, and sanitation. Then hopefully disease and starvation will finish off those that survive the bombs.

The female Israeli conscript ‘spotters’ warned their bosses over a period of weeks that something unusual was happening in Gaza. They were seemingly ignored despite Hamas actually putting their military style activities in the area online, for all to see.
Hamas attacked at dawn on the. 7 th but the first Israeli soldiers didn’t appear until lunch time. A gap of 7/8 hours? They could so easily have saved so many of those hostages.

Gaza is 24 miles by 5 miles and is completely surrounded by the Israeli army so the question which should be asked is ‘why did it take so long for help to arrive? Given that the Jews trapped in their safe rooms etc would all have been on the phone reporting what happened and asking for help, from dawn onwards.

This suspicious delay has never been satisfactorily explained by Israel, and the question should be answered. I hazard a guess that there will be no answer.

silverlining48

The female Israeli conscript ‘spotters’ warned their bosses over a period of weeks that something unusual was happening in Gaza. They were seemingly ignored despite Hamas actually putting their military style activities in the area online, for all to see.
Hamas attacked at dawn on the. 7 th but the first Israeli soldiers didn’t appear until lunch time. A gap of 7/8 hours? They could so easily have saved so many of those hostages.

Gaza is 24 miles by 5 miles and is completely surrounded by the Israeli army so the question which should be asked is ‘why did it take so long for help to arrive? Given that the Jews trapped in their safe rooms etc would all have been on the phone reporting what happened and asking for help, from dawn onwards.

This suspicious delay has never been satisfactorily explained by Israel, and the question should be answered. I hazard a guess that there will be no answer.

I watched the harrowing documentary of what happened on 7th Oct which featured the testimony of survivors. What it showed quite starkly was how survivors were desperately raising the alarm as soon as the first attacks happened but it took so long for help to arrive that in some cases Hamas had the impunity to make return visits to the scene of the crime and could be seen almost lounging around between attacks as if they knew they had time on their side.
There were stories of police and IDF stations almost deserted due to those who should have been there being given time off. And those stories are being told by survivors not the media.
At the very least what happened was a totally unforgivable lack of security in an area - close to the border with Gaza -where security should be tight as a drum. And of course the worst case scenario is that Netanyahu orchestrated this to keep himself out of jail, boost his poor ratings as a leader, and allow him and his far right cronies to commit genocide.
Is speculation of course until a full and independent investigation is done into the tragic events that day. But it is bizzare.

I hope that at some point there will be a full and independent investigation Babs but as for how transparent it will be, who knows.

If there is nothing in what some claim to be cruel conspiracy theories one would expect Israel's full co operation but so far, their so called 'investigations' into some of the incidence that have taken place don't seem to have materialised.

Smileless2012

I hope that at some point there will be a full and independent investigation Babs but as for how transparent it will be, who knows.

If there is nothing in what some claim to be cruel conspiracy theories one would expect Israel's full co operation but so far, their so called 'investigations' into some of the incidence that have taken place don't seem to have materialised.

I agree the Israeli government are notoriously bad at investigations, most are done in-house with no questions or challenges to what the investigation allegedly finds.
But am hoping the families of those killed or taken hostage will drive an independent investigation. They must want and deserve the truth.
I certainly wouldn’t let it go if a loved one of mine was killed in what should have been a preventable attack or at the very least an attack that should have been stopped hours earlier.

Just repeating an important question which was zapped by the mods.

What is going to happen to the Palestinians in the concentration camps which Netanyahu has described euphemistically as “humanitarian camps”