Setting a precedent?

People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.

Indeed, Doodledog, whereas this is possibly more likely to be the reality.

Whistleblower reveals horrifying reality of Blackpool asylum hotel – from collapsing ceilings to raw sewage

national.thelead.uk/p/metropole-hotel-asylum-seekers-blackpool-whistleblower-pictures-inside?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

lixy

Several military bases near here are being decommissioned. The accommodation will be used as temporary housing. Not a great solution but better than a ship in the Solent.

I disagree. A ship in the Solent ( or anywhere else) would be perfect. The attraction to the UK needs to be as unappealing as ever. Plus, it takes the problem away from residents having their neighbourhood turned into possible no go areas.

lixy

Several military bases near here are being decommissioned. The accommodation will be used as temporary housing. Not a great solution but better than a ship in the Solent.

Wethersfield has been in use for some time and the locals have reluctantly accepted it. I think they've realised that the alternative was to be a new prison, which would have been multi-storey with security lights installed 24/7 on the roof. As far as I know, the prison will be built at some stage, but I think people are now hoping that will be delayed as long as it remains an asylum centre.

I take issue with the repeated insistence that these migrants are called asylum seekers.
They are illegal migrants until they are able to prove indisputably that they are genuinely seeking asylum, so the first thing they need is documentation to prove which country they have left. If they have none, then they are returned. I am sure all the civil servants who are 'being let go' will be more than happy to work at processing their applications.

Primrose53

Deportation is the only answer.
32,000 immigrants residing in hotels which cost us a fortune and which local people, in the main, do not want.

Agree. Send them to a country where there is a shortage of labour.

growstuff

Primrose53

Deportation is the only answer.
32,000 immigrants residing in hotels which cost us a fortune and which local people, in the main, do not want.

If you know of any island like Nauru off the UK coast, please let Yvette Cooper know.

People can only be deported if the accepting country will have them. Where would you deport them to, if the country of origin isn't known?

Obviously that is why they are encouraged by the people traffickers to destroy any documentation they have as it hinders their asylum applications and indeed their deportations if unsuccessful.

I don't see any problems with the asylum seekers in our small town.
Yes, they are here, in a hotel, but they don't seem to impact our lives (or our crime stats).
What would be a problem would be people aggressively protesting about it.

escaped

Not only is it a win for Epping, but Broxbourne Council (just along the road), is going to follow. I believe they use the Marriott hotel in Cheshunt.

What I want to know, is what will happen when we run out of spaces? Will Keir Starmer ask King Charles at one of the weekly meetings if Buckingham Palace can be used?

There are spare rooms at Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle
Sandringham, Osborne House, Kensington Palace, Balmoral,
Highgrove House etc.

I am joking as I realise that there are many, quite valid, reasons why this would not be possible.

MaizieD

^People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.^

Indeed, Doodledog, whereas this is possibly more likely to be the reality.

Whistleblower reveals horrifying reality of Blackpool asylum hotel – from collapsing ceilings to raw sewage

national.thelead.uk/p/metropole-hotel-asylum-seekers-blackpool-whistleblower-pictures-inside?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

The Copthorne Hotel in West Sussex is a luxury hotel with four poster beds etc. and apparently the illegal immigrants staying there get 3 meals a day and a 'snack' pack delivered to their room every day as well as spending money.

As something around 70% are granted asylum, calling them asylum seekers seems more appropriate than illegal migrants

sundowngirl illegal immigrants get nothing!

Just must correct this!

I get everything being said about those who are already here, but once the place is FULL, as it is now, any overflow of people simply cannot be accommodated. Why is that so difficult to say?

sundowngirl

MaizieD

People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.

Indeed, Doodledog, whereas this is possibly more likely to be the reality.

Whistleblower reveals horrifying reality of Blackpool asylum hotel – from collapsing ceilings to raw sewage

national.thelead.uk/p/metropole-hotel-asylum-seekers-blackpool-whistleblower-pictures-inside?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

The Copthorne Hotel in West Sussex is a luxury hotel with four poster beds etc. and apparently the illegal immigrants staying there get 3 meals a day and a 'snack' pack delivered to their room every day as well as spending money.

Yeah! Yeah! I expect they get their own personal servant too!

Skydancer

Primrose53

Deportation is the only answer.
32,000 immigrants residing in hotels which cost us a fortune and which local people, in the main, do not want.

Agree. Send them to a country where there is a shortage of labour.

The accepting country still has the right to refuse.

eazybee

I take issue with the repeated insistence that these migrants are called asylum seekers.
They are illegal migrants until they are able to prove indisputably that they are genuinely seeking asylum, so the first thing they need is documentation to prove which country they have left. If they have none, then they are returned. I am sure all the civil servants who are 'being let go' will be more than happy to work at processing their applications.

Why do you take issue - they're seeking asylum! What's your problem? There might be matter of a minutes from the time they step off a boat to reporting to a Border Officer.

Iam64

As something around 70% are granted asylum, calling them asylum seekers seems more appropriate than illegal migrants

Even if they aren't granted asylum, they're still seeking it until it's denied.

It is government policy to wean off the use of hotels for asylum seekers.

It is government policy to process claims more quickly so that these people can find work and contribute.

It is government policy that those with no right to stay are being deported on a daily basis and in increasing numbers.

It is governemt policy to work more closely with the French and other EU countriesto reduce the numbers of illegal migrants over a period of time.

Meanwhile, some in our society like to follow the media storm...and if there isn't one to try and create one.

keepingquiet Unfortunately they've succeeded in this case. Facts are a minor inconvenience .

windmill1

Hordes, and I mean hordes, of single fighting age young men, dispersed amongst the population in HMO's?

No thanks.

They have already shown what little - if any - regard they have for women by abandoning their own kind to poverty, persecution and abuse,

Your post reminds me of one I saw in a "things American's say on line video". The writer was saying that EVERYONE wanted to FLOOD into America. Do they? No. and nor do "hordes, of single fighting age young men" want to come here.

The person commenting on such comments as we're made on the video called them "arrogant ignorance" and I think he may have something there.

What are you saying. That people don't want to come to the UK? That males aren't the largest percentage of asylum seekers?

Galaxy

What are you saying. That people don't want to come to the UK? That males aren't the largest percentage of asylum seekers?

Nobody suggested that, but there are hardly hordes of them. Horde is obviously a subjective word, but they don't arrive in their thousands and they're still a miniscule percentage of the UK population.

Doodledog

I wonder if it would help if what were hotels (ie places run for the convenience and luxury of paying customers) were renamed when they are repurposed to simply house asylum seekers? They are no longer hotels, any more than an old bank or cinema that is now a Wetherspoons is still what it used to be.

People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.

They are given free everything. Priority medical and dental treatment too.

I doubt if they would want the champagne. They will get three meals a day. Pity we can't give our own people the same. I remember being unable to use medication prescribed because there was no cash spare for prescription charges. I also missed meals so the children could eat. I realise this wouldn't have been the norm for most GNeters.

Surely one of the problems is we can't provide for our own poor elderly, poor families and long term sick. It's bound to upset those people when they see what's happening. It's all made worse when the more comfortably off dismiss their concerns.

Mamardoit I bet you wouldn't like to swap your life with that of an asylum seeker. I'm not sure what you mean by "everything", but I'm 100% sure they don't receive everything.

By the way, all people in the UK are eligible for free medical and dental treatment if their income is low enough. I know that for sure because I get it.

lixy

Several military bases near here are being decommissioned. The accommodation will be used as temporary housing. Not a great solution but better than a ship in the Solent.

RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire was going to be used.

This resulted in huge local protests which went on for many months.

The project was abandoned, resulting in a loss of taxpayers money of £48.5 million, yes MILLION.

That would have built a fair amount of social housing for some of our own citizens, never mind the asylum seekers, migrants, whatever you want to call them.

There are 140 men in The Bell Hotel in Epping. All men, not families which I doubt would have caused so many problems.
Can you imagine the state of that Hotel?

As for housing them in Barges, HMS Queen Elizabeth is in Dry Dock having maintenance, all her crew have been housed in Barges, so they are good enough for our Service personnel but not good enough for illegal immigrants?
If they are legitimate, a one way Plane tickets to the UK is cheaper.