Palestine Action demonstrators may never be able to visit the US or work in education if they take part in this weekend's protest, the Met Police have warned.
I certainly do not know everything there is to know about this subject.
And I certainly would not be joining in.
But this all feels very wrong to me.
Big consequences for protesting.
“Paint is easily washed off “ !
Lathyrus3
Galaxy
Yes but you can't only do it for your own causes, so if you support protest, it has to be across the board, whether it is outside an abortion clinic, a protest led by Tommy Robinson, etc etc.
Yes that’s the rub isn’t it?
This is what I mean.
And it works in reverse too.
If peaceful, I think they should all be allowed.
Suffragettes weren't all peaceful, were they?
Allira
fancythat
Thank you for that.
Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.Peaceful protests are one thing.
This group has caused criminal damage.
All of them protesting?
fancythat
Lathyrus3
Galaxy
Yes but you can't only do it for your own causes, so if you support protest, it has to be across the board, whether it is outside an abortion clinic, a protest led by Tommy Robinson, etc etc.
Yes that’s the rub isn’t it?
This is what I mean.
And it works in reverse too.
If peaceful, I think they should all be allowed.
Suffragettes weren't all peaceful, were they?
No they weren’t and the ones who caused damage were sent to prison.Quite rightly.
We have a right in our country to peaceful protest but not anything else.
Quite.
So, if the protestors today were all to be peaceful, every last one of them, that would be ok to you, would it not?
It wouldn’t be ok if they were chanting support or holding placards supporting Palestine Action.That’s just a fact.
Didn’t you read the link provided on here from the police?
For the normal pro Palestine marches, as long as they are peaceful and don’t contravene any of our laws then that’s fine.
It’s not rocket science fancythat
Claremont
Holding a flag is not causing any damage, is it?
As Willow says, protesting, with some damage, and in the case of suffragettes, even death, has a very long tratiion in the UK 'There are many historical examples of this happening in the UK. Some actions at Greenham Common , or at Faslane, were/are illegal and I support them'
so do I.
I do not support massive climate and environmental damage to our earth and its people, my grandchildren, yours and all the grandchildren of the world who will inherit this disaster. Nor do I support Israel's genocide and illegal take over of the land of Palestine, after flattening it and killing around 60.000 so far.
By comparison, the damage done by Palestine Action Group is minuscule- and as the Government is not listening and continuing to support Netanyahu- then I can understand why some feel big and bold and very visible actions are necessary. Even though I do not condone them.
We constantly talk about the need to keep up very British traditions - not shut them down.
Holding a flag is not causing any damage, is it?
That's not Palestine Action's modus operandi is though.
They are not marching, peacefully protesting, they are guilty of criminal damage.
They did not paint planes, they sprayed paint on to RAF planes, including into the engine of one. This is the RAF which delivered aid into Gaza in a combined operation.
This proves that Palestine Action are not just dangerous but very stupid too.
Yvette Cooper was right to proscribe them.
There are other groups which are not so militant and are not proscribed if anyone wishes to wave a flag and join a peaceful protest.
Hypocrisy is very much in the mind of the beholder.
Very true!
Palestine Action has been proscribed therefore they are not allowed to hold protests. That is the Law,
It was voted for by the vast majority of MPs; that is democracy.
Waive a Palestinian flag and apparently you are a peaceful person.
Wave the English flag and you are a far right troublemaker…
GrannyGravy13
Waive a Palestinian flag and apparently you are a peaceful person.
Wave the English flag and you are a far right troublemaker…
Ironic, isn't it!!
Wave a Star of David flag and the police accuse you of bring overtly Jewish! Wear a school uniform of Jewish school in the UK in 2025 and risk being abused in the streets.
fancythat
Lathyrus3
Galaxy
Yes but you can't only do it for your own causes, so if you support protest, it has to be across the board, whether it is outside an abortion clinic, a protest led by Tommy Robinson, etc etc.
Yes that’s the rub isn’t it?
This is what I mean.
And it works in reverse too.
If peaceful, I think they should all be allowed.
Suffragettes weren't all peaceful, were they?
So what would you suggest Fancythat That the MET has a nice little chat with them telling them to play nicely 🤷♀️
Have you ever been on a protest March? I have.
I was on this one in Colchester. It was very peaceful and generally light heated.
In a split second it turned into mayhem.
My point being, you might think your cause is worthy and just want to show the powers that be how you feel.
You appear very naive and uneducated in the way these groups work.
BTW, what if those people who broke into Brize Norton had planted an incendiary device on the military plane?
I think you are contradicting yourself Oreo.
On the one hand you agree with peaceful protests.
On the other, you dont appear to agree with peaceful protestors at a Palestine Action Protest.
[yes i know it is against the law to be there, but I am talking about a principle].
The principle of peaceful protesting about, well anything.
I thought I would be persuaded by myself and others against peaceful protesting. Instead, I have gone the other way.
Am not contradicting myself at all.Where it’s a legal protest and it’s peaceful, which some are and some aren’t it’s fine.
If it’s supporting a proscribed group then it isn’t fine and you will be arrested.
Is that crystal?
The government in the UK doesn’t do these things lightly.
Quote Allira Sat 09-Aug-25 13:09:18
GrannyGravy13
Waive a Palestinian flag and apparently you are a peaceful person.
Wave the English flag and you are a far right troublemaker…
Ironic, isn't it!!
Wave a Star of David flag and the police accuse you of bring overtly Jewish! Wear a school uniform of Jewish school in the UK in 2025 and risk being abused in the streets.
Last year a Jew leaving a synagogue wearing a kippah was described by met police officer as “openly Jewish”
Some Suffragettes imprisoned were force fed
The farmers protests had a lot of support on Gransnet, even though they blocked the traffic. So I don't think hypocrisy can only be levelled at one side of the debate.
Ilovecheese
The farmers protests had a lot of support on Gransnet, even though they blocked the traffic. So I don't think hypocrisy can only be levelled at one side of the debate.
They blocked roads yes, for a couple of hours. They were respectful to the public. They didn’t glue themselves to the pavements.
They didn’t stop ambulances going about their business.
They didn’t block the busiest motorway in the south of England for several days, preventing people attending hospital appointments and family funerals.
Same principle though 😄😄
Whitewavemark2
Same principle though 😄😄
Only if you think stopping people getting to funerals, hospital appointments is ok?
Whitewavemark2
Same principle though 😄😄
We can live without the picture vandals, super glue fanatics etc. Just Stop Oil did little to nothing to get people onboard with their messsge.
We cannot live without our farmers…
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