King’s Distant cousin says Historian

Let's face it most of us are related to Charles 11nd! So in the unlikely event that this is true, who really cares?

After finding out Danny Dyer is descended from Edward III, I am willing to believe anything.

Since investigating my dna four years ago I now have cousins all around the world. One first cousin, with whom I am now in regular touch, and hundreds of 4th/5th cousins, with whom I am not in touch! I'm still notified weekly of new cousins.
And years ago I was told that I'm a descendant of the Howard family of which Catherine Howard was one.
I'm particularly fascinated by the Queen Victoria/John Brown story. Could they really have had a child? I feel it in my bones that they were in love.

Queen Victoria was 42 when Albert died, becoming close to John Brown after 1861. I doubt very much that she had a child as she was probably too old in that era, and it would have been impossible with all the servants milling around to keep that sort of secret. Elizabeth 1st was supposed to have had a child with Robert Dudley, again very difficult to keep from prying eyes. As for marriage! I don't think something!..Why would she have done that and risked the furore if it had been discovered?

I don't think so, not something!!!!

Until recently there has always been witnesses at births of
leading heads of the royal family , a PM, Archbishop etc

Yes, that was after 'The baby in the warming pan scandal', 1688. Not for illegitimate babies though. Apparently the last time the Home Secretary attended a potential heir to the throne, was for the birth of Princess Alexandra in 1936.

Anne Boleyn's sister Mary , has many descendants, including
Churchill, Nelson,Darwin, Antonia Fraser, P.G.Wodehouse, Diana Spencer, Catherine , Princess of Wales, Sarah Ferguson, The late Queen, Elizabeth the Queen Mother , the present Queen Camilla and others. Strangely. Meghan Markle does not appear, yet.
Richard 111 was identified through the DNA of a descendent of his sister, Anne of York. Duchess of Exeter.

@Allira - Anne Boleyn only had one child - Elizabeth I, who had no children, so how can this lady and you be descendants?

I think this sensationalism is an insult to the memory of Queen Victoria. As far as I know she was loyal to and grieving for Albert until the day she died.

Probably to sell the authors book! Whip up interest in a congested field of books about the royals.

Total tosh

Exactly Not Spaghetti - I have a line back to Eleanor of Aquitaine (not joking). However, as she had a good number of children who married royally and had healthy children etc there must be many thousands who can say the same. Records exist for the 'High Born' so they're easier to trace than Joe Plough. (Lost heart on the Welsh line where generations of John Jones' married Mary Williams - yes but which one...)

Apparently I'm a descendant of a Jester in the court of Charles 1st.

Does that count?!

sassenach512

I joined a history site on FB It amuses me how many people, usually from the US, who jump straight in and claim heritage with the king or queen being discussed. One even claimed he was descended from William the Conqueror.
They never seem to be descended from Dick the grave digger or Ned the miller.

Yes, I've noticed a lot of Americans on FB history sites who claim they are direct descendants of famous kings, queens etc from history. Like you, I've yet to see anybody proudly claiming descent from less glamourous people!

Absolute rubbish...John Brown was my gran's great uncle.Her own name was Margaret Brown Hunter. My dad's aunt had a locket with a lock of Queen Victoria's hair in it.

I expect she will also be related to that woman who claimed for years that she was Anastasia Romanov...🙄

I m not sure about grieving for ever I think Queen Vic had a very soft spot for Mr Brown and for Sheik Karim
Will be interesting to see if the story just fizzles out 🤣

So Victoria spent several years mourning the husband she adored and who died when she was 42....its a bit of a stretch to say she had another baby at least 5 years after Albert's death when she was 47. I doubt she would have had a baby 10 years after her last one considering she made it clear she hated pregnancy.

In the event it is true then she would be Charles 4th cousin, that's not distant. My relationship with the royal family is distant, as are most Brits.

RobertaDanversWalker

@Allira - Anne Boleyn only had one child - Elizabeth I, who had no children, so how can this lady and you be descendants?

Precisely!!

Well, Anne did have another child, but the boy was stillborn and miscarriages too.

Ah, another one claiming their 15-minutes-of-fame.

Rather like the rumours that one of the Romanov Grand Duchesses had survived the Russian Royal Family massacre and for years afterwards various impostors kept popping up and milking the story for all it was worth. Ha! Ha! Ha!

sassenach512

I joined a history site on FB It amuses me how many people, usually from the US, who jump straight in and claim heritage with the king or queen being discussed. One even claimed he was descended from William the Conqueror.
They never seem to be descended from Dick the grave digger or Ned the miller.

You mean you haven’t heard the rumours about Dick the gravedigger and Queen Mary? Apparently his name was no coincidence.

Well I beat the lot of you!

One of my ancestors was a yeast purveyor!

Don’t think he was royal though.

BlueBelle

I m not sure about grieving for ever I think Queen Vic had a very soft spot for Mr Brown and for Sheik Karim
Will be interesting to see if the story just fizzles out 🤣

Apparently there's a programme on Channel 4 tonight about the secret marriage and secret child 🙄

Whethertomorrow

Well I beat the lot of you!

One of my ancestors was a yeast purveyor!

Don’t think he was royal though.

One of mine was an aleconder - that's somebody who tests the purity of beer.

If you go back 30 generations, you have 66 million ancestors, so you're bound to have a variety of characters.

PS. You won't actually have 66 million ancestors because there weren't 66 million people on the planet 30 generations ago, but you've got a few million at least.