Bridget Macron

It's ok foxie, it's just I suppose my worry is sometimes ( I am not suggesting you) there is a temptation to 'excuse' behaviour from women and also from politicians on the side we favour if you know what I mean.

I agree Galaxy I've been the safeguarding governor in a school so I know a little bit about what it entails but there does need to be evidence of wrong doing or every teacher who has a schoolboy or schoolgirl with a crush on them would be guilty. My point is absolutely about "evidence" of wrong doing. I honestly don't know if there was wrong doing, there was a suspicion of it but I genuinely can't find any evidence if there was, I can't help thinking that it would have been dug up by now and have been splashed all over the media both in France and Internationally. I missed out the "don't" in the first line of my last post but hopefully it was still understood. I do not in any way condone inappropriate behaviour in any educational setting but there does need to be evidence.

Yes people have a range of justifications for this behaviour, it often is excused in celebrities, etc. It is very difficult for those of us in safeguarding.

Just for the record the Macrons married in 2007 so they've been married 17/18 years, although he was close to her when in school he moved to Paris to study and she remained married and in Amiens. I can't find any evidence that they had a sexual relationship until much later when they got together again when he was 27, having finished his studies. People might find it odd for people to have a relationship with someone much older or much younger but it's not that unusual and having a strong attraction to another person doesn't mean you will end up in bed. Has anyone considered that Macron fell in love with Brigitte and that she refused to let the relationship go anywhere whilst he was so young? I certainly know what happened and I don't think anyone on this forum does either.

For anyone interested, Macron has infact written his own autobiography which includes the relationship with Brigitte. It's called Révolution, I think it might be available in English too.

They have nt been married that long 8 years I wrongly presumed longer … just to be pedantic it wasn’t a slap or a punch it was a push perhaps she was aiming for his
shoulder !!! Giving her the benefit of the doubt
I can imagine him saying something like ‘keep up’ or ‘get a move on the doors are opening’ and she went to shove his shoulder in a protest and it all went wrong from there
She always seems to look quite miserable
It’s a shame for them he was in the public eye at the time maybe nothing, but now made into something

I don't know what went on, it's a weird relationship.

Oops, no, 6 pages.

Babamaman

Who cares

Well, quite a few on GN apparently, as we are into 5 pages.

Who cares

According to Brigitte Macron herself:
people.com/brigitte-macron-opens-up-controversial-relationship-emmanuel-macron-8404089

Casdon

Galaxy

The whole of GN would grind to a halt if we only commented on people over whom we have jurisdiction. I do judge teachers who have relationships with pupils and I judge those who hit their partner in the face.

I know you do Galaxy. To be clear, I’m not seeking to exonerate either of the Macrons for anything, but nor am I seeking to make up malign motives for either of them and their actions - it just seems to me that in the absence of any hard information about this particular situation, a number of people are doing that- just gossiping.

I Don’t see comments from many as gossip. Yes the daft internet rumours about Madame M don’t become less daft by being repeated

Discussing the clear photographs of Madame M pushing her husband’s face and his reaction isn’t gossip in my view. It’s a discussion about a woman behaving aggressively towards her husband.

It’s never acceptable. It doesn’t matter who they are, domestic abuse is unacceptable. As is a 39 year old teacher starting a relationship with her 15 year old pupil

Allsorts

If it were a man slapping it would be assault, just saying.,

Absolutely. It's not funny and nor should it be

Goodness me! Would you have said the same if the slap was the other way round?

My guess is that he deserved it

I’ve never believed lady GaGa, or Michelle were men, now it’s being said about BM 🙄

I hadn't heard about Lady Gaga, I suppose any successful woman is a target for them, sad that their lives are so empty that starting vicious rumours is what passes for excitement. It must be so hurtful nevertheless for the victims, their family and friends to read these posts. As confirmed in the article by Brigette's daughter.

Rosie51

Allira the speculation that Brigette is a biological man is so ridiculous but the same ridiculous allegations are made about Michelle Obama too, some people need a different hobby!

Similar speculation about Lady Gaga too - trolls just start these rumours for clickbait.

Allira the speculation that Brigette is a biological man is so ridiculous but the same ridiculous allegations are made about Michelle Obama too, some people need a different hobby!

Thank you Rosie51, an interesting article.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of their early relationship (and I agree it was wrong), their relationship has stood the test of time and I do hope that Brigitte is not unwell now.

Any speculation about her gender is just spurious speculation, she was a married mother of three children when she met Macron.

I agree with what you commented Rosie51 and thanks for the interesting article too.😃

Mt61

Amazing & a bully, by the looks of things!

Scottiegran999

Amazing & a bully, by the looks of things!

Galaxy

The whole of GN would grind to a halt if we only commented on people over whom we have jurisdiction. I do judge teachers who have relationships with pupils and I judge those who hit their partner in the face.

I know you do Galaxy. To be clear, I’m not seeking to exonerate either of the Macrons for anything, but nor am I seeking to make up malign motives for either of them and their actions - it just seems to me that in the absence of any hard information about this particular situation, a number of people are doing that- just gossiping.

Teachers and pupils having relationships is wrong because of the power imbalance even without the large age differences. A 39/40 year old woman 'falling in love' with her 15 year old pupil should raise concerns. Her eldest child, a son, was only two years older. Can anyone here say they fell in love with one of their 15 year old teenage son's friends, or felt any sexual attraction to them?
I'll contrast that with the disgusted criticism of Prince Andrew for allegedly having sex with a young girl in the same age bracket as his own daughters.

This article by Brigette's youngest daughter is interesting. It is in English.

telegrafi.com/en/flet-vajza-e-gruas-se-macronit-nga-martesa-e-pare-ishte-skandal-qe-nena-ime-u-dashurua-nje-student-25-vite-te-vogel-dhemb-edhe-sot/