Peace in the Middle East

You can marry at 16 and you can be 17 one day and legally defined as a child and the next day when 18 you’re suddenly classed as an adult.
Save The Children do some good work, but like many charities working in the Middle East have their bias and can be very naive, as in believing every word a 17 year old Palestinian former prisoner tells them.

Just checked, out of interest new laws do not allow children to marry under 18. Whether parents give permission or not.

17 might well be legally classed as a child but we all know from crimes committed here that some 17 year olds or younger are far from being a child. Some are feral, viscious, violent, would stab you as soon as look at you. Not all 17 year olds are equal. I would imagine it’s the same in all other countries.

What are you saying? Or simply trying to find excuses for the way these children have been treated and had to endure from the Israeli forces.

But they are not adults at 16 and never have been, in our day it was 21.
I will leave you to argue it out.

silverlining48

17 year olds are legally children.

Do you mean in the UK?

Palestinian law states children become adults at 18.
However, some leaders of Palestinian armed groups consider children 16 and older to be adults.

I have grandchildren 25, 28, 32, with their parents permission they could have married aged 16,

17 year olds are legally children.

We all understand why Israel was created, and the need for a safe space. What Jews went through in the last war and at other times and places was terrible.
I have just spent an hour writing a post but have deleted it now because views are so deeply entrenched here.
I just ask that people who think this started out of the blue on 7 October look into the back story. There is one, which may make you adjust your perspective.

17 year olds can be very mature.

NO, not at all, you are truly mistaken here. No-one has forgotten the horrors or the Holocaust. They should never be an excuse for horrors on another people.

I have grandchildren aged, 12 to 17 - they are all definitely CHILDREN.

The Holocaust is something which belongs in history books for
many, such horror is dismissed or politely acknowledged then dismissed, I have even read in this forum ‘ Israel should learn
from the Holocaust’

The establishment of the state of Israel didn’t happen out of the blue either. It happened because of the Holocaust. Jews experienced and still experience antisemitism in every country in the world and that is why the the state of Israel was established.

The last 60 years Palestine has been victims ? no

Sorry the second line of my post picked up what was on my radio…. Pls ignore

There are none so blind as those that just won’t see.
Everything is going to be alright for me going to be
Just spend a few minutes reading what Claremont has posted and look at the history of the region over the last 60 years. You will see that the 7 October did not happen completely out of the blue.

Thank you silverlining yes in the UK

The Israeli Government have a ban on The Israeli Broadcasting Authority when a human rights organisation tried to broadcast the names of Palestinian children who had been killed

The UK Annie

Children throwing stones at soldiers armed the back teeth with machine guns, protecting those destroying their homes, attacking their families, burning their crops and land.

Cannot see 17 year olds married as children

In the UK, of course. But they are talking about pre teen children too.

Where is ‘here’. silverlining ?

How on earth is one child’s life more valuable than another.

There isn’t a single child that I would turn away. I simply couldn’t live with myself.

The evil against the children that we have witnessed must never be forgotten.

17 year olds are children here Annie whatever you think.