Riots in Southport

I had to consult Google as I’ve been out and knew nothing of this suspended Labour councillor till I updated on this thread. Is Ricky Jones ‘far left’ or a nasty, ignorant man who shouts before he thinks. Far left in my book include Corbyn and McDonald. So far as I’m aware, they never suggested anyone have their throat cut

tickingbird

For crying out loud when are these ridiculously long copy and paste posts going to stop?

As for far right filth there’s been some far left Labour filth showing their true colours today. Calling for throats to be cut. Tut tut…..

And he has been dealt with swiftly. And quite righty too.

Doodledog - many thanks for that excellent article.
tickingbird - no one expects us to read every long cut n paste, I read this one because the early paragraphs ‘spoke’ to meb

Iam64

I had to consult Google as I’ve been out and knew nothing of this suspended Labour councillor till I updated on this thread. Is Ricky Jones ‘far left’ or a nasty, ignorant man who shouts before he thinks. Far left in my book include Corbyn and McDonald. So far as I’m aware, they never suggested anyone have their throat cut

I think he shouts before he thinks, although he's probably got certain views.

I read about the background to this. Apparently, he's a union official on the railways. Some members had found sticky notes with NF logos on a train. When they removed them, they found razor blades stuck to the back. They also found razor blades down the seats on the train. Obviously, the blades could have caused real damage and he was angry.

That's what's alleged anyway. There's still no excuse for what he said - just explaining the background, in case anybody thought it was some random rant.

Growstuff I've found the report of a NF sticker found at Dunton Green station, scary so near to the school, but can't find any reports of others or of blades down the seats. Can you link to where you found them please?

And will these tough sentences apply to the men who broke a police woman officer nose?

No. Thought not.

Do you have advance knowledge of the sentences? You seem very certain. As the trial hasn't happened yet, and we don't know what evidence will be presented, that seems strange.

Do you remember this from Farage?

Nigel Farage says he would ‘be forced to don khaki, pick up a rifle and hit the frontline'

Fleurpepper

Do you remember this from Farage?

Nigel Farage says he would ‘be forced to don khaki, pick up a rifle and hit the frontline'

Yes, I was trying to remember that but couldn’t remember when he said it.

Urmstongran

And will these tough sentences apply to the men who broke a police woman officer nose?

No. Thought not.

I thought you should know Urms that a thread on this specific issue yesterday was deleted because of levels of speculation, commenting on an ongoing case, (and deletions of dodgy posts) all became OTT.

It's also unrelated to the riots in Southport

As far as I can find Maybee

"Nigel Farage would 'pick up a rifle' if Brexit is not delivered

It is not the first time the former Ukip leader has threatened civil disobedience over Brexit"

"Nigel Farage has said he would, “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if Theresa May fails to deliver Brexit in the fashion he wants.

Addressing an audience at a £63 a head event in Southampton on Sunday, the former Ukip leader said that if Brexit was not delivered properly, "there will be widespread public anger in this country on a scale and in a way we have never seen before."

He added: "If that happens, much as I'm enjoying myself... I enjoy my trips to the States with Trump and the White House and everything else. I'm enjoying my life.

But if they don't deliver this Brexit that I spent 25 years of my life working for, then I will be forced to don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines

He said in May 2016: "I think it's legitimate to say that if people feel they have lost control completely, and we have lost control of our borders completely as members of the EU, and if people feel that voting doesn't change anything then violence is the next step

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-brexit-rifle-pick-up-uk-eu-withdrawal-ukip-leader-liberal-democrat-a7741331.html

(You may hit a paywall, so I copied and pasted from the article)

Thanks Wyllow.It’s actually even worse than I remembered!

Thankyou for the long article on Farage Doodledog. I mostly scroll past long cut and paste jobs but not this one. It says it all. How anyone can overlook it is beyond me.

Urmstongran

And will these tough sentences apply to the men who broke a police woman officer nose?

No. Thought not.

How on earth do you know that??!!

DamaskRose

Urmstongran

And will these tough sentences apply to the men who broke a police woman officer nose?

No. Thought not.

How on earth do you know that??!!

They won’t, because there being a woman police officer with a broken nose I’d fake news.
fullfact.org/online/manchester-airport-incident-female-police-officer/

I dont think that's what the article says is it? It says the photos used were false but further down includes a statement from the police saying a police woman had her nose broken. It isnt the clearest article I have ever read but I think that's what it is saying.

Casdon

DamaskRose

Urmstongran

And will these tough sentences apply to the men who broke a police woman officer nose?

No. Thought not.

How on earth do you know that??!!

They won’t, because there being a woman police officer with a broken nose I’d fake news.
fullfact.org/online/manchester-airport-incident-female-police-officer/

The female police officer did get her nose broken.
The photo that was circulated was NOT this Police Officer.

I read it as saying that the report of the female police officer involved in the incident at the airport is not linked to the incident in the photograph, so yes, you’re right.
One officer was identified as being investigated subsequently, and today I read that a second officer involved has also been arrested.
news.sky.com/story/second-police-officer-under-investigation-after-manchester-airport-incident-13193340
It’s hard to fathom out what has happened from the outside, we don’t know which of the police officers are being investigated, or even if the female officer is one of them.
Jumping to conclusions about this case seems premature to me, there’s obviously a lot that we don’t know.

As I posted above, a thread on this specific issue yesterday was deleted

because of levels of speculation, commenting on an ongoing case, (and deletions of dodgy posts) all became OTT. And it included speculation that the young men would not get due process/punishment

It would be a shame for this thread to be closed down by going off topic on exactly the same points.

Urmstongran

And will these tough sentences apply to the men who broke a police woman officer nose?

No. Thought not.

That’s exactly what I thought.

maddyone

Urmstongran

And will these tough sentences apply to the men who broke a police woman officer nose?

No. Thought not.

That’s exactly what I thought.

Why do you think that? It's pure speculation. The case is still being investigated.

growstuff perhaps you missed my earlier request. can you post links to where you read about the razor blades stuffed down train seats please? Try as I might all I can find is the blade at Dunton Green station.

I think it growstuff because many rioters have been arrested, brought to court, and sentenced all in about three days. Some of them are now in prison. Good.
However the thugs who are said to have broken a police woman’s nose, and who ferociously attacked two other police officers, captured on video and seen by everyone, have yet to be charged, they have been bailed with no charges. Meanwhile two police officers are now under investigation, quite rightly, but that should not eliminate the charges which should be brought to the two thugs. Sadly I think it unlikely that they will be charged given the amount of time that has now passed. I’ll be very happy to be proved wrong.

maddyone

I think it growstuff because many rioters have been arrested, brought to court, and sentenced all in about three days. Some of them are now in prison. Good.
However the thugs who are said to have broken a police woman’s nose, and who ferociously attacked two other police officers, captured on video and seen by everyone, have yet to be charged, they have been bailed with no charges. Meanwhile two police officers are now under investigation, quite rightly, but that should not eliminate the charges which should be brought to the two thugs. Sadly I think it unlikely that they will be charged given the amount of time that has now passed. I’ll be very happy to be proved wrong.

You will be proved wrong and you are just trying to propagate the lie about two tier policing. We all need to think twice about things we put on social media in the current climate. As has been pointed out this is an ongoing case and HQ have already had to remove an entire thread devoted to it. Why try to reactivate it on another thread if it isn’t to try to undermine the government at a very difficult time?

Sorry Rosie51 I did miss it - I've been off doing other things. I didn't save it, but I'll look for it.