Second leaders hustings tonight

yes, we are intending to watch

No, not interested in LDs or SNP and will soon hear whether Sunak or Starmer said anything of note. Will watch the debate between Sunak and Starmer next Wednesday. May see if I can place a bet on how many times Starmer mentions his parents’ occupations and the phone being cut off, ‘lest we forget’.

No, I shall be doing a work shift later, but may record it.On the other hand tho, do I really need to see it as the polling outcome is already so clear.🧐

I bet not so many times as Sunak’s mentions his mother’s pharmacy and GP father.

Well. I think I want to vote Scottish National now.

Pity I live in Staffordshire... 🤦

Just watched. Undecided but Starmer seemed believable then Ed Davey but seems a wasted vote as previously Conservative in my area.

I was impressed by Ed Davey.

I wish Fiona Bruce would just shut up and let the party leaders talk. She just cannot help herself with constant interruptions. I wanted to hear the answer Rishi Sunak was about to give to a question about gambling on the GE date but she starts to rudely talk over him. I rarely watch Question Time now because of her.

Starmer stumbled a bit at the beginning over Corbyn, but after that he came out of the grilling bruised but alive, - they were a tough audience.

My goodness Sunak however, took on the audience and lost!

Not sure the anger he displayed was a good look, but it certainly didn’t go down well with the audience, who booed him, laughed at him and only clapped in appreciation of questions by other members of the audience. The audience booed him as the credits rolled up.

It was much like the rest of Sunak’s campaign - a disaster.

I also thought Starmer’s reply to the gender debate was honest, well thought through and clear.

Sunak did the only thing he could - disown those that bet on the election
No surprises to me, the dishonesty in the Tory party that Johnson fostered was all pervading, they thought they could get away with it.

I’ve switched off on the political debate now, polls predict a 140 seat majority for Labour, locally the previous Tory MP resigned in disgrace. We have a good local Liberal candidate who will give the “parachuted” Tory candidate a good run, but has to overcome a 20k majority. If Sunak keeps finding banana skins to trip over she might do it.

I agree Sarnia, Fiona Bruce was completely doing my head in! I was shouting at the TV ‘just shut up woman and let them answer the questions’. She interrupted and pushed KS more than she did RS.

I don’t think KS dealt very well with the Corbyn question, and Bruce simply would not let it drop. The Corbyn issue makes me laugh; no-one seems to challenge RS on the fact that he was an integral part of Johnson’s government for several years - the most corrupt government this country has ever seen! Why did he support Johnson throughout? That’s what I’d like to ask him.

The audience were tough; RS clearly got rattled and some of his interactions with the audience were uncomfortable - almost ‘bullying’. One young woman said ‘he’s putting words in my mouth there’.

I’m getting increasingly fed up with the poor skills of the hosts of these debates, not one of them so far has been good. Surely we can do better.

In fairness Starmer couldn’t be seen to “rubbish” Corbyn, he has got a lot of Corbyn supporters in the party in the circumstances he did as well as can be expected.

Because it looks like Labour will get a landslide, how much influence will the left have, how long will Starmer last as leader?.

David49

In fairness Starmer couldn’t be seen to “rubbish” Corbyn, he has got a lot of Corbyn supporters in the party in the circumstances he did as well as can be expected.

Because it looks like Labour will get a landslide, how much influence will the left have, how long will Starmer last as leader?.

Pollsters said that last time and Labour had worst defeat since WWII. 😉

Starmers response to the gender debate was awful. Deeply deeply sexist. Thank goodness he knows the truth when its spoken by Blair but not by the women in his party. I dont know how much longer I can hold my nose and vote for them.

Agreed Casdon. They all want to take over the interview, and score points over the interviewee. This doesn’t make good listening, particularly when the questions are from the audience.

In last night’s programme, Bruce should have shut up and passed the issue back to the questioner for further comment / interrogation etc. She did that on a just a couple of occasions - and it was much more effective than her constant interruptions.

As you say Casdon, surely we can do better!

Fiona Bruce shut up. Not interested in SNP, Davey so proud of
his betrayal.

I thought all of the Leaders put up a poor show.

Nothing they said gave me any confidence for the future.

Just watched it all when having breakfast.
Galaxy your summing up matches mine, and some of LizzieDrip too.
KS put up a very poor show on the ‘what is a woman’ question I was very disappointed with him, clearly not wanting to alienate the trans lobby he managed to alienate 50% of voters, women!

GrannyGravy13

I thought all of the Leaders put up a poor show.

Nothing they said gave me any confidence for the future.

This is depressing isn’t it?
And across the pond we (or rather they) have a choice between Biden and Trump.
No hope anywhere.

My worry is now and I dont even want to go into that particular topic, but generally you cant 'say nothing' in the hope of not offending a 'side'. You need to believe in things and stand by them. That is worrying me a little about Starmer.

The SNP leader, as expected, he may as well have had his Rob Roy hat on.
Ed Davey as expected, nuff said!
KS not really answering a straight question with a straight answer.
RS prepared to be honest with answers and came out fighting as he knows he may as well cos he will only be in power for the next fortnight.
Fiona Bruce, just awful all round, she seemed to think her role one of heavy sarcasm, found myself saying ‘give the poor buggers a break’!
I haven’t done a postal vote and none of this will affect my vote for Labour but just wish KS would be braver with his replies.
Am hoping that once in power he will be and it’s only him not wanting to upset any applecarts before the election that’s holding him back.

Primrose53

David49

In fairness Starmer couldn’t be seen to “rubbish” Corbyn, he has got a lot of Corbyn supporters in the party in the circumstances he did as well as can be expected.

Because it looks like Labour will get a landslide, how much influence will the left have, how long will Starmer last as leader?.

Pollsters said that last time and Labour had worst defeat since WWII. 😉

This is not a Brexit election, Starmer does not sit on the fence.