The vote on the call for ceasefire in Gaza

Just to say I don't like Starmer he is a liar like Boris he does what the Isreal lobby want.

Al Jazeera Investigation.

Good to see Labour Files getting richly deserved international recognition. It shed disturbing light on those who now run Labour and may soon run the country. British media silence remains a disgrace.

Some award news from New York Festivals -
@NYFTVFilmAwards

The Truth Illusion won Gold in the Social Issues category and Silver in Current Affairs category.

Details here: aje.io/nyf

A Crowdfund has raised £1000s since Andrew Feinstein has agreed to stand to unseat Starmer in Holborn and St Pancras, where Andrew as lived for 20 years.

Andrew Feinstein,former adviser to Nelson Mandela, is authentic, straightforward and principled. This is why he is so dangerous to Keir Starmer, who has none of these qualities.
I write for Middle East Eye: Peter Oborne

I accept it is unlikely - though not impossible - that he will defeat Starmer come the next election. Starmer won 64.5 percent of the vote in 2019. But I believe he can set the groundwork for a new political party that can set the agenda in the years ahead.

www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-andrew-feinstein-starmer-challenge-politics-hope-rekindle

Yes that will absolutely happen .
We have missed you in a bizarre way.

Glad to see you back Grany you say what you think without ever making any nasty or snide remarks to or about other posters.

Wednesday night pro Palastine demonstrators projected
‘From The River to The Sea’ onto the Elizabeth Tower, the
police did - nothing MP Andrew Percy

Anniebach

Wednesday night pro Palastine demonstrators projected
‘From The River to The Sea’ onto the Elizabeth Tower, the
police did - nothing MP Andrew Percy

I find this unacceptable, extremely inappropriate and culturally inflammatory.

I saw a photograph, don’t know how to post it sorry

Crikey the BBC are actually talking about the threats, and the safety issue.

They are acknowledging them 😲

I find this unacceptable, extremely inappropriate and culturally inflammatory

So do I GrannyGravy.

I’m glad you’re back Grany.
You were missed.

hitewavemark2 Thu 22-Feb-24 16:17:21
I watched the whole of the debate yesterday and the only person to speak gains a ceasefire was Miriam Cates - she is also being investigated for bringing parliament into disrepute.

Was this because it wasn’t safe to speak against?

Both anti-semitism and Islamaphobia have both spiked enormously since October.

We see this and read it everywhere, it is widespread on social media - giving anonymity (including GN) I have family members and neighbours who experience it.

The most surprising people express views that are shocking, divisive and entirely unacceptable.

Othering is a device used by governments and uncritically accepted by the populace. People of colour, people of white origin, and people of faith, people of a different cultural background all suffer.

We are not the civilised nation we like to think we are.

Whitewavenark racism is never acceptable.

As for othering it happens all the time even on GN, the left others the right, pro Brexit others those who wanted to remain, rich other the poor, all the above also happen in reverse…

"Othering" when applied because of race, religion, gender etc can be illegal, disagreement because of different opinions is not. We should be clear about this and not confuse them.

racism is never acceptable

Absolutely. Never under any circumstances.
I think it is getting worse as Whitewave says. Unfortunately the Israel/Gaza situation has been like a tinder box re racism, but I think it was getting worse before.

Vintagewhine

"Othering" when applied because of race, religion, gender etc can be illegal, disagreement because of different opinions is not. We should be clear about this and not confuse them.

Yes

Vintagewhine

"Othering" when applied because of race, religion, gender etc can be illegal, disagreement because of different opinions is not. We should be clear about this and not confuse them.

Yes, that’s very true.

Whitewavemark2

My “oh dear” was for urmspost and bringing Farage into it.

Groaned at the same time as your “Oh! Dear. Farage is the last name I want to hear in this discussion.

Whitewavemark2

This could have been parliaments finest hour, when they came together and showed the world the adults in the room.

Absolute failure.

You are so right Whitewavemark. They have acted like a lot of children who don’t like the way the game is being played and have thrown the board up. The difference being that these are human beings and not counters and they put a chance to protest as one Parliament to one side because of their inability to see or care about the bigger picture rather than their own party politics.

Geoffrey Cox, former Attorney General:

“ I am not calling for Lindsay Hoyle to go. He is mortified and realises he got this wrong. But the one who urged the ignominious surrender, for no doubt purely coincidental party advantage, and was reportedly seen to have mouthed “thank you” as he passed the Speaker’s Chair a few minutes later, was none other than Sir Keir Starmer, who in less than a year will ask that same people and Parliament to entrust him with the security of the nation.”

Urmstongran

Geoffrey Cox, former Attorney General:

“ I am not calling for Lindsay Hoyle to go. He is mortified and realises he got this wrong. But the one who urged the ignominious surrender, for no doubt purely coincidental party advantage, and was reportedly seen to have mouthed “thank you” as he passed the Speaker’s Chair a few minutes later, was none other than Sir Keir Starmer, who in less than a year will ask that same people and Parliament to entrust him with the security of the nation.”

What are you saying?

It’s rather changed my opinion of Keir Starmer.

Who reported him ?

maddyone

It’s rather changed my opinion of Keir Starmer.

Why?