Discussing Electoral Reform From Labour Perspective

I'm not sure that free access to health care is a pillar of democracy, Grantanow, but I agree with the rest.

I'd also add, perhaps, it's where people are allowed to freely express dissent and where government can be meaningfully called to account.

I'm in favour of PR, too, BTW, as being more equitable.

Perhaps I should have said 'free access to education for all' MaizieD, my point being that education supports more rational choices by voters but perhaps being in a good state of health carries similar weight.

There is an argument that a healthy democracy requires certain pillars of a civilised existence to be available for all citizens in order to thrive.

Democracy evolves. Democracy doesn't just apply to countries, it can apply to any group. It does not include to education, health etc., they are (or are not) a product of democracy.

Democracy is a system of government by the whole of the eligible population, typically through elected members. The only things that can change in those circumstances are who is eligible to vote and who and how the elected members are chosen.

Casdon is correct, we are a democracy but some would prefer a different system to elect MP’s.Am not too sure about PR tbh but we have what we have at the moment and insisting the UK isn’t a democracy doesn’t make it true.