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King Charles shocking and disloyal book exposing royal secrets and attacking his family

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GagaJo Sat 07-Jan-23 10:13:28

AKA, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

It’s a story that, for 38 years, people have not been able to get enough of. But the release of SPARE, despite its promise of “raw, unflinching honesty,” has also been met by huge criticism from the same people rushing to click on or write stories about him.

The dramatic pearl clutching would have you believe that this is, to borrow a cliche from the royal reporting dictionary, an unprecedented moment for the House of Windsor. One of the Royal Family’s very own breaking their (questionable) “never complain, never explain” mantra to share private stories that supposedly should have been taken to the grave.

But short-term memory loss will do that to you, because Harry is far from the first senior royal to open up like this. In fact, he only needed to look at the actions of his own father (and mother) for a set example.

Many forget that our current Head of State did exactly the same.

As a man who felt so misunderstood during the breakdown of his marriage and his journey to the throne, Charles turned to BBC journalist Jonathan Dimbleby in 1994 to write a once-in-a-lifetime biography on his life so he could be better understood. Sound familiar?

Just like Harry’s ghostwriter J.R Moehringer, the then Prince of Wales spent countless hours sitting down for interviews with Dimbleby, as well as providing access to his friends and aides, and opening up his private archives of 10,000 private letters, journals and diaries.

The result was a tome that offered a deeply intimate look at Charles like never before. The story of an heir's emotionally repressed childhood, his “detached” and often absent mother who was too “preoccupied” with her career to show warmth, and a capricious, judgmental father who just wanted his son to grow up to be a thicker-skinned, aggressive leader.

Writing about both books, a New York Times critic said at the time that each biography painted pictures of “hapless victims — victims, for all their wealth and glamour, of emotionally deprived childhoods, a voracious press, unfortunate circumstances and duplicitous friends”.

For Charles, the negative response from the British press and public was intense. Accused of ferociously attacking his family and disgracing the monarchy, newspaper polls and opinion pieces declared him unfit to be king and some journalists even suggested he should be stripped of his titles. (Sounds familiar again?).

But there have been no regrets about sharing his story, sources have told me in more recent years. If he didn’t do it then, he would have had to forever deal with the fact that only tabloids, newspapers and unauthorised biographers told his story in their words.

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volver Wed 11-Jan-23 14:33:44

I think the problem Aveline, is the way that people are instantly leaping to demonise him, and her. They are happy to believe the worst things that can be said about them and to scream liar! liar! and make up all sorts of backstories that are based on prejudice.

So what else will people believe without any rational basis? This is why we have Brexit, isn't it?

AGAA4 Wed 11-Jan-23 14:35:13

Yes they are by using his words as a boast about killing and belittling the people he killed.

volver Wed 11-Jan-23 14:35:51

Which he didn't do.

AGAA4 Wed 11-Jan-23 14:41:52

I have read that piece in full and I believe what he meant was he didn't want to kill and just had to make it right in his own mind by saying he was killing bad men to save good men volver. Still feel it may have been better left out of his book.

volver Wed 11-Jan-23 14:44:14

I agree AGAA4. I don't know if it should have been left out or not.

Oreo Wed 11-Jan-23 14:50:03

GagaJo

Oreo

Those who mistakenly hope that this debacle around H&M will bring the monarchy here to an end, clock’s ticking and all that jazz, are in for a bloody long wait.grin
Harry has gone too far, the public here and in the US are already doubting his words and he’s losing support from his Army friends now as well.

I don't think any of us who feel sorry for Harry and what he's been through think it'll take the monarchy down.

If the king can write a scandalous 'tell-all', have an affair and bring his mistress in as queen, clearly a side-character like Harry has zero power in the effect he'll have on the monarchy.

volver seems to think so.
That clock will have to do a load of ticking before it ever happens tho.😆

volver Wed 11-Jan-23 14:51:05

Yes I do.

I hope it happens while I'm still here to see it.

Oreo Wed 11-Jan-23 14:53:37

AGAA4

I have read that piece in full and I believe what he meant was he didn't want to kill and just had to make it right in his own mind by saying he was killing bad men to save good men volver. Still feel it may have been better left out of his book.

It should def have been left out of the book, and especially the tally that he wrote he kept!
In any case from a helicopter he had no true idea of how many taliban he and others actually did kill.
He didn’t need to include anything about that in his book.

Oreo Wed 11-Jan-23 14:54:22

volver

Yes I do.

I hope it happens while I'm still here to see it.

Unlikely

volver Wed 11-Jan-23 14:55:26

I'll assume that doesn't mean you hope I die soon Oreo.

volver Wed 11-Jan-23 14:57:00

Oreo

AGAA4

I have read that piece in full and I believe what he meant was he didn't want to kill and just had to make it right in his own mind by saying he was killing bad men to save good men volver. Still feel it may have been better left out of his book.

It should def have been left out of the book, and especially the tally that he wrote he kept!
In any case from a helicopter he had no true idea of how many taliban he and others actually did kill.
He didn’t need to include anything about that in his book.

Have you read it?

Doesn't look like it.

Laptops Oreo. Laptops...

Oreo Wed 11-Jan-23 15:10:11

With the best tech in the world it’s impossible to tell how many have died. He can’t be that exact.

Oreo Wed 11-Jan-23 15:10:51

volver

I'll assume that doesn't mean you hope I die soon Oreo.

It means I assume you are an older woman, even if not a gran.

Oreo Wed 11-Jan-23 15:12:43

But 25 or 10 I bet he’s now wishing he had kept quiet about it.
The repercussions could be really dangerous for him and his family.

volver Wed 11-Jan-23 15:22:35

What a charmer you are Oreo.

Grany Wed 11-Jan-23 22:21:40

NHS on its knees, cost of living crisis, families can’t afford to heat their homes, or eat.

KC wants new gold coach, he not paying.
Coronation costs over £100 million, this very rich family won’t have to go without.

State of this country what is the point of monarchy

Abolish the monarchy
Support down to 55%

ronib Thu 12-Jan-23 07:05:31

According to the Yorkshire Post the new coach is being made as a gift for KC3 and there’s no charge to the taxpayer.

Also according to the newspaper, the original coach offers a terrible ride. But KC3 goes out in the bone shaker and returns in the new one. Pretty quaint?

GagaJo Thu 12-Jan-23 13:47:26

ronib

According to the Yorkshire Post the new coach is being made as a gift for KC3 and there’s no charge to the taxpayer.

Also according to the newspaper, the original coach offers a terrible ride. But KC3 goes out in the bone shaker and returns in the new one. Pretty quaint?

A gift from who? If he's not paying, and we're not either?

ronib Thu 12-Jan-23 14:00:06

Jim Frecklington

Callistemon21 Thu 12-Jan-23 15:25:28

KC wants new gold coach, he not paying

Relax, Grany, it's not solid gold.
The horses would go on strike if it was.

Zoejory Thu 12-Jan-23 15:31:15

I think the Monarchy is safe for a few years yet.

However I am still in shock after what I just heard. Harry's voice. Harry's words. I suppose Harry's truth.

I feel for Elizabeth Arden. This probably is not the sort of publicity that want.

Oreo Thu 12-Jan-23 15:36:18

I remember an interview with the Queen once where she said how awful the old coach was, that you were shaken to bits in it.
Oof!

Oreo Thu 12-Jan-23 15:37:42

Zoejory haha
It does wonders for frozen bits so they say.

OnwardandUpward Sat 14-Jan-23 12:15:00

Poor Elizabeth Arden, definitely not the publicity they would want and obviously they don't need publicity, being such a quality brand. I would not want my brand being used in that way.

I am sure KC has friends in high places, who having seen the betrayal by his son, want to show their support publicly.

Grany Thu 19-Jan-23 14:11:36

@RepublicStaff

This is dishonest spin from the palace. 100% of Crown Estate profits always goes to the government and spent on public services. The government is reviewing the Sovereign Grant and he’s used the opportunity to pretend he is somehow being generous. #NotMyKing #AbolishTheMonarchy twitter.com/skynews/status…

Categorically Untrue.