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King Charles shocking and disloyal book exposing royal secrets and attacking his family

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GagaJo Sat 07-Jan-23 10:13:28

AKA, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

It’s a story that, for 38 years, people have not been able to get enough of. But the release of SPARE, despite its promise of “raw, unflinching honesty,” has also been met by huge criticism from the same people rushing to click on or write stories about him.

The dramatic pearl clutching would have you believe that this is, to borrow a cliche from the royal reporting dictionary, an unprecedented moment for the House of Windsor. One of the Royal Family’s very own breaking their (questionable) “never complain, never explain” mantra to share private stories that supposedly should have been taken to the grave.

But short-term memory loss will do that to you, because Harry is far from the first senior royal to open up like this. In fact, he only needed to look at the actions of his own father (and mother) for a set example.

Many forget that our current Head of State did exactly the same.

As a man who felt so misunderstood during the breakdown of his marriage and his journey to the throne, Charles turned to BBC journalist Jonathan Dimbleby in 1994 to write a once-in-a-lifetime biography on his life so he could be better understood. Sound familiar?

Just like Harry’s ghostwriter J.R Moehringer, the then Prince of Wales spent countless hours sitting down for interviews with Dimbleby, as well as providing access to his friends and aides, and opening up his private archives of 10,000 private letters, journals and diaries.

The result was a tome that offered a deeply intimate look at Charles like never before. The story of an heir's emotionally repressed childhood, his “detached” and often absent mother who was too “preoccupied” with her career to show warmth, and a capricious, judgmental father who just wanted his son to grow up to be a thicker-skinned, aggressive leader.

Writing about both books, a New York Times critic said at the time that each biography painted pictures of “hapless victims — victims, for all their wealth and glamour, of emotionally deprived childhoods, a voracious press, unfortunate circumstances and duplicitous friends”.

For Charles, the negative response from the British press and public was intense. Accused of ferociously attacking his family and disgracing the monarchy, newspaper polls and opinion pieces declared him unfit to be king and some journalists even suggested he should be stripped of his titles. (Sounds familiar again?).

But there have been no regrets about sharing his story, sources have told me in more recent years. If he didn’t do it then, he would have had to forever deal with the fact that only tabloids, newspapers and unauthorised biographers told his story in their words.

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Grany Thu 19-Jan-23 14:17:34

The Sovereign Grant should be scrapped. It's a stupid way to fund a public body and deliberately creates confusion about the funding of the monarchy. As with all other public bodies, parliament should set the budget annually, and that budget should be less than £10m. #NotMyKing

Charles should pay tax on his inheritance that would help the nation especially in cost of living crisis

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Jan-23 14:23:47

I suggest you find out what was actually said/released Grany

King Charles has requested that profits from £billion Crown Estates Wind Farms be used for the wider good of the people

volver Thu 19-Jan-23 14:32:40

"used for the wider good of the people" sounds like something a medieval ruler would say to look popular.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Jan-23 14:37:12

volver

"used for the wider good of the people" sounds like something a medieval ruler would say to look popular.

Yep.

Hopefully he realises that there are many needy households at the moment, rather it be used to help than disappear into the black hole of the Treasury.

Callistemon21 Thu 19-Jan-23 14:41:17

He can't do right for doing wrong, can he!

I think that’s why show and tell is fine
Using it towards household fuel costs for those on low incomes would be a good idea. I hope it doesn't disappear into a black hole too.

Norah Thu 19-Jan-23 15:01:05

Callistemon21

He can't do right for doing wrong, can he!

I think that’s why show and tell is fine
Using it towards household fuel costs for those on low incomes would be a good idea. I hope it doesn't disappear into a black hole too.

I care nothing about him, nor he me, but it does appear he is making some small attempt to listening to people. Modernizing?

Callistemon21 Thu 19-Jan-23 15:04:48

I think that’s why show and tell is fine
That was entirely the wrong copy and paste from another thread!!
It should have been this quote:
Hopefully he realises that there are many needy households at the moment

Yes, I think he is a moderniser, Norah
And he cares about people and about the future.

Grany Thu 19-Jan-23 15:50:29

Wind farms are included in crown estate

This is dishonest spin from the palace.

100% of Crown Estate profits always goes to the government and spent on public services.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Jan-23 16:01:30

Grany

Wind farms are included in crown estate

This is dishonest spin from the palace.

100% of Crown Estate profits always goes to the government and spent on public services.

Have you read what The King actually said?

Callistemon21 Thu 19-Jan-23 16:18:23

This could help to clarify:

www.ft.com/content/181186b1-7cdd-4805-8659-9eba9ee92c8b

By taking the lucrative option fees and rents from wind farms out of the equation, the King, who highlighted the cost of living crisis during his first Christmas speech as monarch, has headed off what could have become a lightning rod for critics of the monarchy at the start of his reign.

“It’s right he has done this. He would have got hammered for it if he hadn’t because there would have been a huge windfall for the royal family,” said Norman Baker, the former Liberal Democrat minister who has written extensively on royal finances.

Looks as if he's getting hammered anyway but we could expect no less grin

Calendargirl Thu 19-Jan-23 16:21:43

volver

"used for the wider good of the people" sounds like something a medieval ruler would say to look popular.

What would you have liked him to say?

Callistemon21 Thu 19-Jan-23 16:23:36

Calendargirl

volver

"used for the wider good of the people" sounds like something a medieval ruler would say to look popular.

What would you have liked him to say?

I'm buying a new Daimler
A new house with a large estate where I can grow wildflowers
And a new Royal Yacht.

volver Thu 19-Jan-23 16:27:14

So then...

KC likely to get significantly more money from this business about windfarms that he might normally expect, but only because there is a unique approach to funding his family that nobody else can get and because he owns the seabed because that's what Kings do. And he's decided not to take the £250 million because he doesn't need it, he's got enough already.

Are we meant to be grateful???

volver Thu 19-Jan-23 16:28:58

Calendargirl

volver

"used for the wider good of the people" sounds like something a medieval ruler would say to look popular.

What would you have liked him to say?

"Deep down I'm really a republican so I abolish the monarchy" would be a good start. 🤣

ronib Thu 19-Jan-23 16:30:30

volver

So then...

KC likely to get significantly more money from this business about windfarms that he might normally expect, but only because there is a unique approach to funding his family that nobody else can get and because he owns the seabed because that's what Kings do. And he's decided not to take the £250 million because he doesn't need it, he's got enough already.

Are we meant to be grateful???

Kneel Serf grovel

Oreo Thu 19-Jan-23 16:35:33

Tbf it does sound like something a fairytale King or Prince would say😄
Anyhoo, it’s better that it comes to us rather than add to his own riches.
I take my hat off to him and pull my forelock respectfully.

Mollygo Thu 19-Jan-23 18:19:13

Are we meant to be grateful?

Are you saying we should be? Does KC expect it? Has he said so?

Whatever he says, or does will be wrong for some people.

ronib Thu 19-Jan-23 18:26:46

Mollygo do you not think that a fair part of the country is feeling pretty battered by now and it’s difficult to be positive even over a windfall gift?

varian Thu 19-Jan-23 18:28:10

I've always thought that, howver many obvious criticisms we could so easily make, that Charles is a chap, who, given his peculiar upbringing, is in a funny kind of way, quite genuine.

Faint praise, I know, from a republican, but I think he means well.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Jan-23 18:31:03

ronib

Mollygo do you not think that a fair part of the country is feeling pretty battered by now and it’s difficult to be positive even over a windfall gift?

So rather than the £250,000,000 being ring fenced for good causes would you rather it go into the black hole of The Treasury?

I can only post my opinion and that is I think it’s preferable to be used for good then be lost in The Treasury.

volver Thu 19-Jan-23 18:37:29

It hasn't been "ring fenced for good causes." confused He's just told them not to put it in the royal bank account. The Treasury will get it.

Where do people get these ideas from?

Mollygo Thu 19-Jan-23 18:38:06

ronib

Mollygo do you not think that a fair part of the country is feeling pretty battered by now and it’s difficult to be positive even over a windfall gift?

Agreed ronib. Difficult to feel positive when I fill up my car, turn down my heating, look at my bills, but that wasn’t the question asked.

Are we meant to be grateful? is a snide comment which implies that someone has said we should be grateful.

Who said we should be?

Casdon Thu 19-Jan-23 18:44:21

volver

It hasn't been "ring fenced for good causes." confused He's just told them not to put it in the royal bank account. The Treasury will get it.

Where do people get these ideas from?

That bit I feel quite sad about. The ‘good causes’ he might choose would probably make a lot more difference to people than giving it to the treasury as they are likely to spend it on centrally decided priorities to make them look good but which aren’t local priorities, the Levelling Up schemes for example.

volver Thu 19-Jan-23 18:58:07

Casdon I don't know what his annual income and net worth are (not sure anybody does) but I'm sure if he wanted to make a difference to people he could make some very generous donations. I'm sure he already does.

However the country can't rely on charity.

MaizieD Thu 19-Jan-23 23:45:48

At least he's trolling the tories...